US Secret Service looking for new Sniper Rifles

TomS said:
So weird making to modular when three of the four calibers named are functionally almost identical (.300 WM, .300 NM, and .300 PSC are very similar in all but the most extreme corners of performance). Just pick one; it's not like the USSS is going to be operating somewhere it needs to be able to borrow ammo from another service or anything.
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The person getting hit is unlikely to notice the difference. I'm a .338LM guy myself. Although there are many new variations on that too now, .338NM etc...
 
They do have subtle differences under various operational and environmental conditions, I believe.
 
TomS said:
So weird making to modular when three of the four calibers named are functionally almost identical (.300 WM, .300 NM, and .300 PSC are very similar in all but the most extreme corners of performance). Just pick one; it's not like the USSS is going to be operating somewhere it needs to be able to borrow ammo from another service or anything.
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Well, I could see arguing between .300 Norma and .300 PRC. They're close enough together in terms of capacity and performance to be a "only whiny competitive shooters even have a preference between the two, and even then it's an even split."

.300winmag is the oldest cartridge design and is belted, plus it's actually the shortest overall length. 85mm versus 93.5 for the Norma and 93.85 for the PRC. And it's the slowest by about ~40m/s.


Grey Havoc said:
They do have subtle differences under various operational and environmental conditions, I believe.
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.300 Norma is ~200fps faster than .300winmag with the same weight bullets. IIRC PRC is as well.

This honestly feels like someone tired of dealing with their different counter-snipers all preferring different rounds.
 
Walther WA 2000, 300 Winchester Magnum if it isn't broke don't fix it.

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Somewhat expensive yet pissed on the H & K PSG1, which is a G3 with a better trigger/lower receiver.

300 win is a serious round.

Outstanding design, bullpup, floating barrel and semi auto nails tacks out to 800 mtrs, have gone out to 1200 mtrs yet gets a little wobbly.

Regards,
 
When I moved the US in the late 80's I got my FFL in type 1, 2 and then finally the big daddy type 3. Also had carry permits which in the old days were different as they are today US state wise.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/federal-firearms-licenses
Was awesome and had stuff everywhere, had some skills and was doing custom 45 reworks for bowling pin shoots.

My school sport was rifling shooting, crazy today as my school had a s small bore range in Sydney CDB and when I turned 18 got my pistol licence and got the L frame SW686 and the 45 AMT longslide hardballerr.............Terminator yeh yeh.

Next stop Philly...................then it got crazy :cool:

Regards,
 
Halcyon66 said:
Walther WA 2000, 300 Winchester Magnum if it isn't broke don't fix it.

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Somewhat expensive yet pissed on the H & K PSG1, which is a G3 with a better trigger/lower receiver.
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176 built, the last in 1988. Not sure that's really what the Secret Service are looking for.
 
Correct there are numerous other platforms that are much better and lighter these days.

The WA 2000 was just a favorite from way back.

Didn't realise the US secret service uses this forum for recommendations :D

Regards.
 
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