Saunders Roe SR/A.1 variants

[Justo Miranda]

From iso publications 1996

 

[Jemiba]

Especially interesting is the MAEE (Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment)
proposal from 1943, as it is in fact the first britsh design for a swept wing
aircraft.
(see: Air International 10/96)

 

[Barrington Bond]

What about the Westland Pterodactyl series?

Regards,
Barry

 

[Jemiba]

Well, good question, I must admit !
Maybe we are starting a discussion like "What is an aircraft" ...
The Westland Pterodactyl was a kind of flying wing, the sweep back probably
was just used to keep CG in the limit, not to achiev aerodynamic benefits.
But in fact it WAS a swept wing, you're quite right and if the MAEE proposal
wasn't using sweep back for the same reason, I'm not sure.
Sorry, hadn't look into the thirties ... :

 

[Barrington Bond]

I did wonder if you meant "first jet engined design with sweepback"?

Perhaps there was something earlier but the Pterodactyls suddenly swooped into my forebrain and I couldn't resist taunting you!

Regards,
Barry

 

[Justo Miranda]

What about the Westland Pterodactyl series?

Regards,
Barry

Good article in AIR ENTHUSIAST No 64 July/August 1996

 

[Jemiba]

".. and I couldn't resist taunting you!"
Absolutely ok, I can stand it !
And you're right, too, that the claim in AI says "first jet engined design with sweepback" !
Well, in my mind swept wings are always part of a fast, mostly jet aircraft, but that's not
part of the definition of swept wing. So "More precision, please" ;D

 

[Jemiba]

Another SR/A.1 variant we've still forgotten was the P.122.2 with lateral intakes,
allowing for a nose radom. An artist's impression can be found in Tony Buttlers
BSP on page 174.

 

[Barrington Bond]

Lovely adverts - if only it happened...

 

[Barrington Bond]

Some more...

 

[inkworm]

I know this is an old thread but thought better to add this 'what if' scheme here, assuming it had made it to Korea that is.

 

[dogsbody]

I like that. Nice drawing.

 

[Spark]

Super pictorial illustrations from Aeroplane.
Saunders Roe SR/1A, there is a video clip loop shown at the Science Museum, London.
There was an earlier UK aircraft with a sophisticated swept wing that saw military service in Canada, United States, and UK as well as being built and flown in France as a civil aircraft.( sorry not a jet)
There was a design for a Naval twin turbofan sweptwing bomber that appears to pre-date the proposed Saro aircraft.

There was a early reference to a too-early Airspeed blended-hull seaplane fighter for which I have seen no illustration but there was a scheme proposed based on it with a front centrifugal jet, bifurcated jetpipe, four cannon, blended-hull, T-tail and a pilot sitting behind the c.g.,

".. and I couldn't resist taunting you!"
Absolutely ok, I can stand it !
And you're right, too, that the claim in AI says "first jet engined design with sweepback" !
Well, in my mind swept wings are always part of a fast, mostly jet aircraft, but that's not
part of the definition of swept wing. So "More precision, please" ;D

 

[lordroel]

Do not know if this design has been discussed before on the forum, but the Saunders-Roe SR.A/1 jet-propelled fighter flying boat while never entering into production is a nice looking sea plane, especially if you look at these 4 images below of the advertisement of the plane.

Image I

Image II

Image III

Image IV

 

[TomS]

Previous thread with the same art, I believe.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/saunders-roe-sr-a-1-variants.3488/

 

[Tzoli]

When this plane was proposed? 1940-41? Because KGV had UP launchers only for a short period of time!

 

[Justo Miranda]

Please see https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/saunders-roe-sr-a-1-variants.3488/

 

[lordroel]

Previous thread with the same art, I believe.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/saunders-roe-sr-a-1-variants.3488/

Thanks, i tried searching for it but i could not found it, but still a nice plane, would it be of use, i do not know.

 

[Archibald]

Wow. Straight out of E.P. Jacobs Blake & Mortimer.

 

[lordroel]

Thanks for the merger.

 

[shedofdread]

Illustration of test tank.