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from http://www.baha.be/Webpages/Navigator/News/Special%20Features/MAKS%202009/Day7-Testing-time/Testing-time.html :
"According to Alexandre Voronin, General Manager of the “Black Raven” project, this mock-up will soon be tested in the wind tunnels of TsAGI. The design will be at the base of three further projects: an engineless cosmoplane, a motorised aircraft and an unmanned aerial vehicle. The varying specifications and the somewhat clumsy construction of the mock-up suggest that it is an example of Russian humour, a cheerful note in the serious business that aerospace industry is. At least it is “another way of looking at the matter”, as the Raven (ворон - voron) said in Hans Christian Andersen’s “Snow Queen”, a fairy tale very popular with the Russians."
"According to Alexandre Voronin, General Manager of the “Black Raven” project, this mock-up will soon be tested in the wind tunnels of TsAGI. The design will be at the base of three further projects: an engineless cosmoplane, a motorised aircraft and an unmanned aerial vehicle. The varying specifications and the somewhat clumsy construction of the mock-up suggest that it is an example of Russian humour, a cheerful note in the serious business that aerospace industry is. At least it is “another way of looking at the matter”, as the Raven (ворон - voron) said in Hans Christian Andersen’s “Snow Queen”, a fairy tale very popular with the Russians."
This conceptual image of the projected aerospace suborbital cosmoplane "Black Raven" or "BR-009".Tophe said:
Accurate aerodynamic scheme is the know-how of the developers and still classified, it is known that the project will be designed as a "canard ", the propulsion system with a marching liquid oxygen-kerosene engine with a thrust of 5500 kgf-based liquid propellant-0109, and the two SRBs (dry-fuel / solid propellant). Two-seater (pilot and tourists have individual cabins and spacesuits Sokol-KV2) kosmoplan with takeoff weight 2770 kg. the orbit is derived by a modified MiG-25 carrier.
information from the "TM" magazine 12-2009
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Again,
- mentioning sources for posted pictures is mandatory
- and if you're asking for an identification, it eases the search considerably
... especially if the reverse search brings no results, as here .
- mentioning sources for posted pictures is mandatory
- and if you're asking for an identification, it eases the search considerably
... especially if the reverse search brings no results, as here .
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That is quite a mix you came up with!
- A-2 "Avangard". No data except it was built in Kazan [RA-1554G].
- "Edelweiss". Built by Gennadiy Alekseyevich Zotov [RA-1051G] (2009).
- "Korshun-M". Built at KhAI in the Ikar club under A. Barannikov (1980).
- KS-201. Couldn't find it but I'm sure I have it under another name.
- L.3. Built by V. G. Luchak at the ATT Ikar Club in Lyubertsy in 1991.
- "Nadezhda". Not sure, I have a "Nadezhda-2" built in 1990 by V. Izhetnikov.
- L-40. (and NOT P-40!) Looks like a Polish Wilga with an inline engine ("L-40" could be the engine designation).
The tail reads "Aeroclub ABC". - "Shagman". New to me!
- SL-39. Built by Interavia in Lukhovitsk and based on their I-1 "Leshiy" (1994).
- "Strekoza". Built by Yuriy Vladimirovich Tsybenko in the Zhambyl area (1986).
- "Waldo". New to me!
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I have finally found more information.
The A-2 [RA-1554G] was designed by Vladimir Chebaev (pronounced Chebayev), and first flew in 2012.
Before that, he had designed the A-1 [RA-1110G] (see photos), which is given on several sites as a 2004 aircraft, though another source claims it flew in 2009. Both aircraft are named Avangard, and the name appears on the side of the A-2's nose, but in actual fact that is the name of the company for which Chebayev did the design.
Source: KAI Composite website
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Funny how it becomes easier to find stuff once you know WHAT to look for...
I've found more yet about Chenayev, including, unfortunately, information about his passing.
I've compiled all the information I could find as best as possible and started a separate topic:
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...-unsung-hero-of-the-russian-ultralight.46240/
I've found more yet about Chenayev, including, unfortunately, information about his passing.
I've compiled all the information I could find as best as possible and started a separate topic:
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...-unsung-hero-of-the-russian-ultralight.46240/
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Excluding the major companies and bureaus, which have separate listings and files, I've worked over the years on an index of all Soviet and Russian aircraft types (built or unbuilt) by smaller size companies, individuals and even amateurs since the origins of aviation. Although probably largely incomplete, it already boasts over 2300 entries, and of course I keep finding new stuff all the time...
On the side, I have "only" 130 entries that could NOT be properly identified, i.e. I have a name or a designation (often found in a book or a published list), but no mention of the manufacturer or designer. 27 of these are pre-1945, 24 are of undetermined period, but 79 are definitely postwar (mostly amateur-built), so I've decided to share a simplified list of them here, just in case. If anyone knows anything about any of them, feel free to comment, even if it's only a tidbit. However, note that several names also exist for other aircraft I've already identified... That's why I'll provide other details when possible to tell them apart. Some of the names are so so common or so generic in Russian that it is almost impossible to use them in a Google search without having at least a person's name to associate with them.
Here is also the list of the undated types and projects, mostly postwar I believe.
I'm attaching those which I have photos of (except for the trikes, which pretty much all looked the same...).
I've also got photos of totally undescript types to share, but that will be for another time.
Thanks in advance for your help!
On the side, I have "only" 130 entries that could NOT be properly identified, i.e. I have a name or a designation (often found in a book or a published list), but no mention of the manufacturer or designer. 27 of these are pre-1945, 24 are of undetermined period, but 79 are definitely postwar (mostly amateur-built), so I've decided to share a simplified list of them here, just in case. If anyone knows anything about any of them, feel free to comment, even if it's only a tidbit. However, note that several names also exist for other aircraft I've already identified... That's why I'll provide other details when possible to tell them apart. Some of the names are so so common or so generic in Russian that it is almost impossible to use them in a Google search without having at least a person's name to associate with them.
| Name (Cyrillic) | Transcription | Year | Description | Qty. | Amat. | Area |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| «Валерий Чкалов» | "Valery Chkalov" | 1950 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Жеребцов» | "Zherebetsov" | 1950 | light aircraft | |||
| «Винтолёт» | "Vintolyot" | 1961 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| Бс-1 | Bs-1 | 1965 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Спутник» | "Sputnik" | 1968 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Чиж-2» | "Chizh-2" | 1969 | 2 + 1 MU | yes | RU | |
| «Турист» | "Turist" | 1970 | light aircraft | |||
| «Чкалов» | "Shkalov" | 1970 | light aircraft | |||
| АТ-1 «Авиетка» | AT-1 "Avietka" | 1970 | RU (Kuibyshev?) | |||
| П-2 | P-2 | 1970 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| Ч-1 | Ch-1 | 1970 | light aircraft | |||
| ДОН-2 | DON-2 | 1971 | 2 + 1 MU | yes | RU | |
| «Два друга» | "Dva Druga" | 1972 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Первый» | "Perviy" | 1972 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Стрекоза» | "Strekoza" | 1972 | (or 1977?) | 1 | yes | RU |
| «Михаил Кузаков» | "Mikhail Kuzakov" | 1973 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| АТ-1 «Мрия» | AT-1 "Mriya" | 1973 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Гриф-1» | "Grif-1" | 1974 | 4 + 2 MU | yes | BY | |
| «Истра» | "Istra" | 1974 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Сверчок» | "Sverchok" | 1974 | light aircraft (or 1971?) | 1 | yes | RU |
| АТ-2 «Славутич» | AT-2 "Slavuitch" | 1974 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| ДОН-5 | DON-5 | 1974 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| ПМК-03 | PMK-03 | 1974 | 2 + 2 MU | yes | RU | |
| «Мустанг» | "Mustang" | 1975 | light aircraft | |||
| «Тореадор» | "Toreador" | 1975 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Шмель» | "Shmel" | 1975 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| АМЕГА-9 | AMEGA-9 | 1975 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Нижегородец-75» | "Nizhegorodets-75" | 1976 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| L-13J | L-13J | 1976 | sport plane | |||
| БО-ГЗ | BO-GZ | 1976 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Биплан-02» | "Biplan-02" | 1977 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Шаробошка» | "Sharoboshka" | 1977 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| ИНЛ-2 «Demoiselle» | INL-2 "Demoiselle" | 1977 | 1 replica | yes | RU | |
| УЛ-100 «Мечта» | UL-100 "Mechta" | 1977 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Оптимист» | "Optimist" | 1978 | biplane | 1 | yes | UA |
| ЭКАР-1 | EKAR-1 | 1978 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Икар» | "Ikar" | 1979 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Оптимист» | "Optimist" | 1979 | biplane | 1 | yes | UA |
| «Пеликан» | "Pelikan" | 1979 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Оптимист» | "Optimist" | 1981 | biplane | 1 + 1 MU | yes | UA |
| БМ-2 «Петух» | BM-2 "Petukh" | 1981 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Гриф-4» | "Grif-4" | 1982 | trainer | BY | ||
| «Микро-2» | "Mikro-2" | 1982 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| ТШ-1 | TSh-1 | 1982 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Брянский Рабочий» | "Bryanskiy Rabochiy" | 1983 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| КК-9 «Авось» | KK-9 "Avos" | 1983 | light aircraft | 1 | yes | RU |
| МВ-9 | MV-9 | 1983 | fighter | 1 | yes | RU |
| «Журавлёнок» | "Zhuravlyonok" | 1984 | ||||
| «Стимул-10» | "Stimul-10" | 1984 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Аэроскат-2» | "Aeroskat-2" | 1985 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Гриф-7» | "Grif-7" | 1985 | trainer | yes | BY | |
| «Демуазель-20» | "Demoiselle-20" | 1985 | replica | |||
| «Жаворонок» | "Zhavoronok" | 1985 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Нахалёнок» | "Nakhalyonok" | 1985 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| «Феникс-02» | "Feniks-02" | 1985 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Школьник» | "Shkolnik" | 1985 | single-seat parasol light open tractor aircraft | yes | ||
| ВАТ-14 | VAT-14 | 1985 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| ЛПС | LPS | 1985 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Гриф-9» | "Grif-9" | 1986 | trainer | yes | BY | |
| «Хтекелес 02» | "Khtekeles 02" | 1986 | ||||
| АВ-3 | AV-3 | 1986 | sport plane (= Pulsar AV-03?) | |||
| Бс-6 | Bs-6 | 1986 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Наська» | "Naska" | 1987 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Сокол» | "Sokol" | 1987 | ||||
| БСПП-2 | BSPP-2 | 1987 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Кудымкар» | "Kudimkar" | 1988 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Павел Рычагов» | "Pavel Rychagov" | 1988 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| М-1 «Гном» | M-1 "Gnom" | 1988 | single-seat fighter | 1 | yes | RU |
| «Малыш» | "Malysh" | 1989 | single-seat midwing tractor ultralight | 1 | yes | RU (Sverdlovsk) |
| «Миф-01» | "Mif-01" | 1989 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Спартак» | "Spartak" | 1989 | 1 | yes | UA | |
| До-1 «Карапуз» | Do-1 "Karapuz" | 1989 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| НСУ-3 | NSU-3 | 1992 | single-seat ultralight partially open experimental helicopter | 1 | RU (Likino-Dulevo, near Moscow) | |
| «Сопвич» | "Sopvich" | 1998 | Sopwith historical replica | RU | ||
| «Троица» | "Troitsa" | 1999 | 1 | yes | RU | |
| «Ретро» | "Retro" | 2003 | RU | |||
| «Шершень-2» | "Shershen-2" | 2008 | RU | |||
| «Шершень-3» | "Shershen-3" | 2009 | RU | |||
| ПЛ-12 | PL-12 | 2009 | light general aircraft | RU |
Here is also the list of the undated types and projects, mostly postwar I believe.
| Name (Cyrillic) | Transcription | Year | Description | Qty. | Amat. | Area |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| «Аэроскат» | "Aeroskat" | single-seat tractor aircraft | yes | RU (Troitsk, near Moscow) | ||
| «Гигант» | "Gigant" | single-seat tractor aircraft | RU (Voskresensk) | |||
| «Зней» | "Znei" | powered glider | RU (Moscow) | |||
| «Параспорт» | "Parasport" | powered glider | ||||
| «Пионер» | "Pyoner" | glider | UA | |||
| «Снегирь» | Snegir | RU (Kuibyshev?) | ||||
| «Стриж-19-03» | "Strizh-19-03" | motor hang glider (trike) | BY (Vitebsk?) | |||
| «Стриж-19М» | "Strizh-19M" | motor hang glider (trike) | BY (Vitebsk?) | |||
| «Фламинго» | "Flamingo" | single-seat high wing pusher open motor glider | ||||
| Су-ЛЭМЗ | Su-LEMZ | powered sailplane | ||||
| «Грач» | "Grach" | delta wing | RU (St. Petersburg) | |||
| «Комета-2» | "Kometa-2" | two-seat pusher light open prototype autogyro | RU (Volhynie area) | |||
| «КОНДОР-212» | "KONDOR-212" | light aircraft, a version of the X-32 Bekas | ||||
| AG-200 | AG-200 | tandem-seat parasol wing enclosed agricultural autogiro prototype ("Aerodrome Balakhna" mention) | RU (Zadonsk) | |||
| СВ-5 | SV-5 | single-seat enclosed light agricultural helicopter prototype | RU (Zelenshuskaya) | |||
| СВ-32 | SV-32 | agricultural aircraft, crashed 12 June 2010 | ||||
| СВ-72 | SV-72 | motor hang glider (trike) | ||||
| «Диалог» | "Dialog" | motor hang glider (trike) | ||||
| «Доброполье» | "Dobropolye" | delta wing | yes | UA (Donetsk) | ||
| «Златоуст» | "Zlatoust" | light aircraft | ||||
| «Мототельежка» | "Mototelezhka" | delta wing | yes | UA (Cherkassy) | ||
| «Элегант» | "Elegant" | motor hang glider (trike) | BY (Vitebsk) | |||
| Е-1,-2,-3 | Ye-1,-2,-3 | light aircraft | ||||
| ЛМ-2 | LM-2 | light aircraft |
I'm attaching those which I have photos of (except for the trikes, which pretty much all looked the same...).
I've also got photos of totally undescript types to share, but that will be for another time.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Flamingo.jpg
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@Antonio: Could this here topic be merged with that other, similar one?
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/russian-little-known-helicopters-light-aircraft.710/Thanks!
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/russian-little-known-helicopters-light-aircraft.710/Thanks!
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L-13J is most likely the good old L-13 Blaník sailplane, which was built under this name when equipped with Jawa engine mounted above the fuselage. Either it's a mention of these Czech prototypes, or some aeroclub in USSR tried to made their own conversion in the same manner.
https://www.muzeum-kunovice.cz/let-l-13-j-blanik-jawa/
https://www.muzeum-kunovice.cz/let-l-13-j-blanik-jawa/
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I figured it had to be a Blanik modification (there have been many) but I didn't know if it was Soviet, Czech or Lituanian. Thanks!
