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Regarding the VTA movie. By the time it was made, Seversky was out at Republic. Now Seversky was like Douhet, and believed that the bomber would always get through, unescorted, and destroy targets with pinpoint accuracy. The USA had a problem that the European powers did not. Really until the B-36 went into service, the US had no bombers capable of taking on strategic missions to the European or Japanese industrial heartland from US territory. This was pretty much understood by Seversky and the USAAF, so the movie showed these gigantic bombers which were only just starting to be feasible.
 

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Fake , indeed :

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-x-FOTO-in-AK-GROSSE-SOWJET-FLUGZEUG-FLYING-RHOMBUS-SOWJETUNION-RUSSLAND-/111870163961?hash=item1a0bfb3bf9:g:YyMAAOSwfcVUE0jY
 

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Found this on the Atompunk Brazil FB page. I thought this might be a good place to ask if this was a real project or not.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/356899201015875?view=permalink&id=1003494646356324&comment_id=1003507753021680&ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_comment_reply&actorid=100005036405988
 

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XP67_Moonbat said:
Found this on the Atompunk Brazil FB page. I thought this might be a good place to ask if this was a real project or not.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/356899201015875?view=permalink&id=1003494646356324&comment_id=1003507753021680&ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_comment_reply&actorid=100005036405988
A pusher for sure
 

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Oh yeah! Thank you!

Kinda figured Tremulis was tied to this!
 

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Hi, Skoda Kauba Nuklear-Hyperschallflugzeug. Not real project?

http://www.panzerfux.de/Sortiert-nach-Nationen/1-72/1-72-Wehrmacht/Kampfflugzeug/1-72-Skoda-Kauba-Nuklear-Hyperschallflugzeug.htm?shop=panzerfux&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=BIM-72139&t=6&c=19982&p=19982
 

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Sorry but this "thing" is just laughable, Vladimir

The only Hypersonic vehicle the Nazi had were V2 rocket and there attempt put wing on them just wings brake of at Mach 4..

Nuclear what ? engine or Nuke ? no way the nazi were so advance !
And it's a Aerodynamic nightmare for Hypersonic flight...
 

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From the book проектирование самолетов 1948,

I found this flying cannon aircraft artist drawing,was it a real design or just a hypothetical ?.
 

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hesham said:
From the book проектирование самолетов 1948,

I found this flying cannon aircraft artist drawing,was it a real design or just a hypothetical ?.
I asked about this airplane because,there was anther Cheranovski cannon fighter (not BICh-17)
project,and helping in the design,Mr. L. B. Kurchevskii ,it was unknown up to this moment?.
 

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Some subtle hint for you...

 

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Hi,

I don't remember from where I get this picture,it was F-16 or looks like it,but fitted
with twin tail fin,is it a real aircraft project or not ?.
 

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hesham said:
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I don't remember from where I get this picture,it was F-16 or looks like it,but fitted
with twin tail fin,is it a real aircraft project or not ?.
This appears to be the fighter jet "P-996 Lazer" from the game Grand Theft Auto V. ;)

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/P-996_LAZER
 

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I'd guess fake. The 1971 General Dynamics Model 401F looked very similar but had a smaller radome and no wingtip rails. This looks too modern to be part of that pre F-16 series.
 

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Couldn't it be the Hawker Siddeley HS1202 from the mid to late 70's, that looked like a twin fin F16. It used a straight through variant of the Pegasus as it powerplant - RB431.

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Skyblazer said:
A Sikorsky S-58 with normal tail and huge contra-rotating propellers in the nose... Is this picture a fake? Thanks for any pointers!
At begin it look fake to me, but I start to thinking about this configuration
the Sikorsky S-58 got it engine in Nose, so if it turn forward to power propellors, it could fly as a gyrocopter.
but i never heard that Sikorsky build such prototype or is this a Westland Whirlwind prototype ?
 

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JohnR said:
Couldn't it be the Hawker Siddeley HS1202 from the mid to late 70's, that looked like a twin fin F16. It used a straight through variant of the Pegasus as it powerplant - RB431.
Those narrow-chord vertical fins certainly look the part. But didn't the HS1202 have a three-part canopy?
 

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Apophenia said:
I'd guess fake. The 1971 General Dynamics Model 401F looked very similar but had a smaller radome and no wingtip rails. This looks too modern to be part of that pre F-16 series.
That's right my dear Apophenia.
 

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Hi,

in a site,they spoke about Von Braun dream for spacecraft,it looks like Focke-Wulf
Triebflugel,was it a real design for him or just a hypothetical one ?.

http://www.dominiosfantasticos.com.br/id296.htm
 

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The Google translator seems to tell me, that German Flying Saucers are taken for
serious on that site ! So I would be very, VERY cautious indeed to believe in anything,
that is told there. ;D
Perhaps a portugese native speaker can tell us more ?
 

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Of course my dear Jemiba,

I know that, flying disc is not welcome here,so I asked about rotating propeller
project,and I saw it also in a magazine maybe or PDF report ?.
 

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Hi all,

of course I know Piasecky PA-97 design,but that's different a little concept (in its shape),
I don't know if it was a real Project or not ?.

https://www.pinterest.com/kronetzk/fliegen/
 

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Hi,

I found this drawing to a Russian aircraft,for which A-110 AWACS aircraft Project will
be look like,I don't know if it was real or hypothetical only ?.

Kryl'ya Rodini 2015-11-12
 

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These are Beriev TANTK patent drawings
 

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flateric said:
These are Beriev TANTK patent drawings
Looks a lot like the Yak-44 too.

flateric said:
Some subtle hint for you...
Subtlety is wasted on those who can't understand it...

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;D That cat is funny!!!
That's Muttley, from the popular Wacky Races and Dastardly & Muttley TV cartoon series!
A few years later it came back as a detective, a Columbo spoof called Mumbly...
 

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Thank you my dear Flateric.
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

I don't remember from where I get this picture,it was F-16 or looks like it,but fitted
with twin tail fin,is it a real aircraft project or not ?.
On top of being from the game GTA, this was a real early design for the Falcon and was also explored in the F-16U variant.
 

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lucinator said:
hesham said:
Hi,

I don't remember from where I get this picture,it was F-16 or looks like it,but fitted
with twin tail fin,is it a real aircraft project or not ?.
On top of being from the game GTA, this was a real early design for the Falcon and was also explored in the F-16U variant.
The early F-16 designs are thoroughly documented here
 

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As far as I can tell no there was no other BICh fighter that was actually built that had weapons. Several of the concept fighters by BICh do spear to be designed for combat, however as far as I know the BICh 18 was the only non tailless aircraft designed by BICh. Also the engineering seems wrong. Generally if you mount a large cannon you either mount it under the plane, or through the body, where its located looks like a good way to decapitate the pilot when the cannon is fired.

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hesham said:
From the book проектирование самолетов 1948,

I found this flying cannon aircraft artist drawing,was it a real design or just a hypothetical ?.
I asked about this airplane because,there was anther Cheranovski cannon fighter (not BICh-17)
project,and helping in the design,Mr. L. B. Kurchevskii ,it was unknown up to this moment?.
 

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Skyblazer said:
A Sikorsky S-58 with normal tail and huge contra-rotating propellers in the nose... Is this picture a fake? Thanks for any pointers!
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That German photo is a fake.
It is a crude paste-up of Dornier 27 tail feathers, a Sikorsky S-58 fuselage with a Fairey Gannet propeller pasted on the front.
The biggest error was in chopping off the Skorsky at the firewall. Without that heavy radial engine, it would be badly unbalanced.

However, the PA-97 drawing is based on a real, flying project. Sadly, it only flew once and not very well. They built a prototype with a blimp envelope and remains of four Sikorsky S-58 helicopters. Unfortunately, vibration tore it apart during the first test flight so they never built the projected version based on Skycrane helicopters.
 

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Any word on this yet?
From video (link to video below) of two triangular aircraft flying in formation towards the camera and then, oddly, rotating. Quality looks fairly good. The more I look at it the more I'd say its a fake. The 'shaky' camera movements to me look like digital manipulation without the fluidic movement of a hand held camera transitioning from one position to another.

http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001
 

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All these motion blur and shaking filters used for 'UFO' and 'TR-3A' 'videos' ... guys must understand that they must use them with a merit.
Obviously fake.
 
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