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.... and again: Mentioning the source is

a) necessary and
b) makes an answer perhaps easier
 

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Jemiba said:
.... and again: Mentioning the source is

a) necessary and
b) makes an answer perhaps easier
Amen,
by looking at file name, the source might be at Facebook.
 

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Actually a real one. I'm from mobile so I can't look for the references I've on my HD but it's a British project, IIRC from Hawker Siddeley. It's also included in one of the Secret Projects book, the one about the British ramjets and missiles.
 

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Believe me my dear Jemiba,

before I sent it,I made a big search to find the source,but no way,it was on my files with
many anther weird aircraft,but I always don't keep the site name.

For CiTrus90,yes it's shape is very familiar,and please if you can more specific and ID it
exactly,that will be nice,and thanks.
 

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CiTrus90 said:
Actually a real one. I'm from mobile so I can't look for the references I've on my HD but it's a British project, IIRC from Hawker Siddeley. It's also included in one of the Secret Projects book, the one about the British ramjets and missiles.
This is one of Project Greenglow concept drawings (as well as intercity transport in previous post)
 

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Thank you my dear Flateric.
 

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From old Kryl'ya Rodine magazine,

I found this strange Models for Republic F-105 fighter,with a folded wing,I can't translate
that article,so was it real or just a model imagination ?.
 

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so was it real or just a model imagination ?
It's not said, it's just written that the illustration shows a F-105 model with folding wings, the rest of the text deals with the folding wing concept as such, without referring to this particular model.
 

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That's fake,am I right ?.

http://universalminibuilders.wikia.com/wiki/FMA_82_Halcon_Del_Sur
 

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Hesham you have enough IQ to not ask those questions too often.
 

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hesham said:
That's fake,am I right ?.

http://universalminibuilders.wikia.com/wiki/FMA_82_Halcon_Del_Sur
It looks very much like the P-996 Lazer from the game Grand Theft Auto V.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2925.msg275364.html#msg275364
Entry #338 of this thread.
 

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Why I asked about it,

because I saw a drawing for it on Internet from while,that make me confuse,I saw
it in two sites,that's one made me felt it was a fake,but the anther one which I don't
remember it now,made a doubt for me,it looks like a real one on it.

https://www.taringa.net/post/taringa/12469621/Proyecto-AR-XSA---comunidad-Militares-en-T.html
 

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What site does it look _real_ at, for the God's sake?
 

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flateric said:
What site does it look _real_ at, for the God's sake?
I will search again,maybe it was similar to it,and I was wrong.
 

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lucinator said:
hesham said:
Hi,

I don't remember from where I get this picture,it was F-16 or looks like it,but fitted
with twin tail fin,is it a real aircraft project or not ?.
On top of being from the game GTA, this was a real early design for the Falcon and was also explored in the F-16U variant.
Looks a lot more like the Hawker Siddeley P 1202.
 

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Thank you Foo,but it was not the same.
 

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Sorry, it has also been mentioned earlier. I should sleep more and be more alert too. Have a great day tomorrow everyone.
 

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No need to sorry my friend,you are welcome,

and merry Christmas.
 

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A push-pull 'what-if' concept based on the Tu-2 airframe. What a lot of work that 'whiffer' put into this scenario :eek:
 

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Apophenia said:
A push-pull 'what-if' concept based on the Tu-2 airframe. What a lot of work that 'whiffer' put into this scenario :eek:
Yes I think so,too. This is a quite elaborate "what if".;D
 

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Hi,

here is a fake fighters to Erik Simonsen.
 

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They are not fake, but conceptional as author clearly states everywhere in captions.
 

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flateric said:
They are not fake, but conceptional as author clearly states everywhere in captions.
Thanks.
 

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flateric said:
They are not fake, but conceptional as author clearly states everywhere in captions.
Flateric has right.
Especially the second one was the rumored FB-23 bomber proposal heavily based by Northrop-Grumman on its YF-23 proposal.
 

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Also Eric Simenson concept;

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2012/September%202012/0912engines.aspx
 

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Hi! LMFS STOVL/VTOL version.
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftopwar.ru%2F23075-lmfs-legkiy-mnogocelevoy-frontovoy-samolet.html&sandbox=1

Fighter-25 (I-25B) "vertikalka:
View from above - 63.1 m2;
Side view - 18,97 m2;
Front - 5.62 m2;
Volume - 18,88 m3;
Wing area - 39 m2;
Fuel system:
Fuselage tank volume - 4.33 m3;
Dimensions fuselage tank - 13,5h4,04h1,49;
Fuel Weight - 3400 kg;
Volume of the wing tank - 1.7 m3;
Dimensions wing tanks - 7,66h0,55h1,1;
Fuel Weight - 1335 kg;
Total fuel weight 4735/6635 (2 x 900 PTB) kg;
Range of flight:
Consumption at maximum - 0.75 kg / kgf * h;
Cruising Consumption - 0.62 kg / kgf * h;
The horizontal takeoff / landing (weight 4735 kg) - 3100 km,
Range - 1100 km;
The horizontal takeoff / vertical landing (weight 4143 kg) - 2700 km;
Range - 950 km
Vertical takeoff / vertical landing (weight 3551 kg) - 2300 km;
Range - 800 km;

The weight:
Maximum - 19535 kg (9500 + 4735 + 100 + 5000 + 200 (4AKU 50 kg);
Normal - 14935 kg (9500 + 4735 + 100 + 600)
Empty - 9500 kg;
Fuels - 4735 kg;
Load - 600/5000 kg;
Load:
Normal - 600 kg (2 P-73 + 2 P-77 = 220 + 380 kg);
maximum - 5,000 kg (500 + 6AB 4AB-500) plus 4 underwing AKU 50 kg;
Possibility of vertical take-off - with thrust-weight ratio = 1.5;
17500 kgs / 1.5 = 11,670 kg;
11670-9500 (empty) - 100 (Pilot) - 600 (normal load) = 1470 (fuel)
Range -340 km;
Range of flight 965 km,
Engine 127 product (flat nozzle):
Top view - 5,8 m2;
Side view - 5,26 m2;
Front - 1.52 m2;
Volume - 3.59 m3;
Engine weight - 1617 kg (3.59 x 450 m3 kg / m3).
 

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Hi,

the SAAB Fenix,a completely fake,right ?.

http://faktoider.blogspot.com.eg/2015/07/stridsflygplanet-saab-fenix.html
 

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richard B said:
Fukrmann flying bomb :

From a post-war Italian magazine (sorry , I don't remember which one) , a piloted bomb derived from an interceptor :
Hi Richard B,

from many Italian magazines I noted that,some names was different in its spelling in this language,so maybe
Fukrmann meant Fokkerman or Fokker man,so I can't judge if it was a real Project or not ?.
 

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Hi,

here is a picture to article from Icare magazine,spoke about Henri Coanda's design of flying saucer
fighter Project,I think it was not real, right ?.

http://www.roaf.ro/ro/cer_senin/arhiva/2010/cer_senin_3_2010.pdf
 

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Varga RMI-11,is completely a fake aircraft as I think.
 

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