PZL TS-8 Bies early unbuilt concepts

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a three different drawings to early unbuilt concepts to PZL TS-8 Bies two seat
trainer aircraft,two of them had a pusher engine.


http://www.polot.info/?a=4000013&s=h

 

[Jemiba]

Is there any clue, that the TS-8 II was inspired by the Rhein West RW 3?
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RFB_RW3-P75_Multoplan_D-EKUM_LeB_29.05.57_edited-2.jpg )
Have looked through the linked text, but didn't find anything.

 

[hesham]

I guess not my dear Jens,


it was developed from 1951 and RW3 was appeared in 1957.

 

[Jan den Das]

Hai
I small cporrection, the Argus version was not a PZL project, but this was from Soltyk's LWD period

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is again the early three drawings,plus the early draft of 1953.

http://www.smil.org.pl/ptl/wyklady/09_Samolot_TS-8_Bies.pdf

 

[hesham]

An attack version of Bies,right ?.

(see video already posted here https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/pzl-ts-16.1766/post-378039 )

 

[Petrus]

An attack version of Bies,right ?.

(see video already posted here https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/pzl-ts-16.1766/post-378039 )

Not necessarily an "attack version". "Do szkolenia strzelców" means "for gunner training" - at that time the Polish air force had nearly 100 Il-28s, so probalby it was felt that a specialised training aircraft for gunners was needed.
"Czteromiejscowy dyspozycyjny" means "executive four seater".

Piotr