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Designations of Avions Pierre Mauboussin and Peyret-Mauboussin

Louis Augustin Peyret

Pierre Mauboussin's designation sequence springs from his earlier association with pioneer designer, Ing Louis Peyret (ex-Blériot designer, ex-Morane Saulnier research chief, and tandem-wing monoplane pioneer). Those Peyret-Mauboussin PM numbers are listed separately.

Because Peyret's tandem-winged 'Le Taupin' is also listed as the Peyret VI, it is tempting to suggest that the Peyret-Mauboussin PM sequence follows on from an earlier Peyret series. Unfortunately, there's little sign of such a numbering system.

Peyret gave names to his earlier design but, aside from the Peyret VI and one Flight reference to a 'PM 4', there is no obvious aircraft numbering (although Peyret's airfoil designs were numbered). Peyret was associated with numerous gliders (eg: Georges Abrial) and tandem-wing projects (eg: with Louis Paulhan and the Albessard Triavion). Only projects with Peyret's name firmly attached are listed immediately below:

Early Louis Peyret Aircraft Names

Peyret Alérion - 1922 single-seat tandem-wing glider, 6.6m span (main), 2 built
-- aka Peyret Tandem (orig. name), Alérion Tandem, or simply the Planeur Peyret
- Alérion n° 1: Maneyrol set duration record (3h22), Itford Hill, 21 Oct 1922
- Alérion n° 2: written-off by Lt. Le Petit near Biskra, Algeria, 12 Feb 1923
-- Vieilles Toiles et Planeurs Modernes - Peyret Alérion Tandem - photos/3 views
http://claudel.dopp.free.fr/Les_planeurs/Descriptions_planeurs/Peyret_Alerion/Peyret_Alerion.htm
-- NB: Alérion was a footless and beakless heraldic bird (usually an eagle)
-- Medieval bestiaries said only two Alérions exist at a time -- n° 1 & n° 2 :)

Peyret - [Project] 1923 powered Alérion fitted with 7 hp engine (type unidentified)
-- Flight 19 Apr 1923 announced plans for a flight from Vauville to Jersey
-- Flight 19 Apr 1923 - Light 'Plane and Glider Notes http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200215.html

Peyret Avionette - 1922-23 moto-aviette (very light a/c) with "moteur auxiliaire"
- Avionette: 1 x nose-mounted 16 hp air-cooled upright inline 4-cyl Sergant A
-- L'avionnette Louis Peyret, by J. Serryer, Les Ailes, 04/10/1923, n° 120, p.25
- Avionette: aka Peyret Monoplan, experimental monoplane of conventional layout
- Wings folded up on approach, Lympne trials 13 Oct 1923, Alexis Maneyrol killed
-- Flight 18 Oct 1923 The Light 'Plane Meeting at Lympne - Avionette photos http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200643.html
-- j2mcl Planeurs http://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php/?code=2572

Peyret-le Prieur Hydroplan - 1924 light biplane seaplane trainer, 1 x engine
- Hydroplan: designed for Yves le Prieur (of aerial rocket & aqualung design fame)
-- Hydroplan engine: 1st trials 16 hp 4-cyl Sergant, then repl. by 45 hp Anzani 6
-- Flight 4 Sept 1924 - Light 'Plane and Glider Notes
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1924/1924%20-%200554.html

-- L'hydravion Louis Peyret, biplan à moteur Sergant 16 CV, by J. Serryer, Les Ailes,
14/08/1924, n° 165, p.25

Peyret-Abrial A-2: 1925 Vautour (Vulture) wooden single-seat glider, 6.25m span
- A-2 Vautour: glider designed by Georges Abrial, 1 built by Ateliers Peyret

Peyret-Abrial A-5: 1928 Rapace (Raptor) single-seat sailplane, aka Abrial A-5, 16m span
- A-5: design by Georges Abrial, assist. by Peyret and Prof Toussaint, 1 built

Peyret VI - 1930 Taupin 2-seat tandem-wing, 1 x 50hp Beaussier, 7.2m span*
-- Taupin was essentially an enlarged, powered deriv. of the Alérion glider
-- Flight 5 Sept 1946 - Private Flying in France
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1946/1946%20-%201726.html

-- * Sailplane & Glider 31 Mar 1933 says 8.4m main and 6.5m rear wing spans
- SFCA-Peyret Taupin: 1936-37 (flown 1937) amateur-construction Peyret VI
-- SFCA-Peyret aka "Le Taupin", 1 x 30 hp flat-2 cylinder Mengin 2 A1*
-- * Also flown with 30 hp ABC Scorpion horiz-opposed 2-cylinder

Peyret [??] - [Project] 19?? 2-seat tandem, low-wing in front, high-wing behind
-- NB: Lay-out reappears on Mauboussin's 1936 M.40 Hémiptère research a/c
-- Sailplane & Glider vol.4 no.6 31 March 1933 http://www.lakesgc.co.uk/mainwebpages/Sailplane%20&%20Glider%201930%20-%201955/volume%204%20No.%206%20Mar%2031%201933.pdf


Peyret-Nessler Libellule - 1928 single-seat* parasol lightplane, 1 x 12hp Salmson 3-cyl
- Libellule: 1 built (F-AISQ), * but often flown with Mde Eric Nessler as passenger
-- NB: 'Libellule' also name of the Peyret-designed, tandem-winged 1907 Blériot VI

NB: Georges Abrial's 1932 AIR 5 2-seat training glider design was to be built by Ateliers Peyret but this plan ended with Louis Peyret's death in 1933. It was eventually built by Arsenal as the AIR 50.
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Avions Mauboussin M Designations

Avions Mauboussin

After his separation from Peyret, Mauboussin redesignated his designs in a sequence that derives the Peyret-Mauboussin designations. The PM XI and PM XII were redesignated as M.111 and M.112 (although still reported as 'M.11' and 'M.12' in the early 1930s).

Production aircraft designations were in a more typically French pattern. The production PM XII/M.12 became the M.120 with major developments following as M.121-M.129. Inititially, M.120 developments received suffix numbers based on their year of original (eg: the M.120/37 project of 1937 which led to the production M.123 Corsaire).

According to Flight (30 Sept 1943), after the Armistice the Mauboussin plant was engaged in glider production. But of what type and for whom? Did they receive Mauboussin designations?

Anomolies: The M.40 Hémiptère research aircraft of 1936 fits no pattern. And the Rouleur - a single-seat lightplane design with tricycle u/c - seems to have no number at all. I have listed the FM.260 Elite as the 'M.260' for simplicity. That 'FM' doesn't seem to fit the Mauboussin or Fouga designation patterns. I presume that 'FM' refers to 'Fouga-Mauboussin' but have no proof.
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M.110 - [??] There are vague, online references to a 'Peyret-Mauboussin PM 110'

M.111 - 1932 redesig. of Peyret-Mauboussin PM XI light high-wing cabin monoplane
-- M.11: no further Mauboussin devel. of Peyret-Mauboussin PM XI/M.11 design

M.112 - 1932 redesig. of Zodiac-built Peyret-Mauboussin PM XII low-wing trainer
- M.112: Corsaire, consid. prototype for prod. M.120 Corsaire series by Zodiac

M.17? - [??] Flight lists "Mauboussin-Zodiac 17" in 1933 Angers 12-hour contest
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1933/1933%20-%200157.html
-- NB: Flight photo of "17" (below) appears ident. to M.120 with cowling
-- Flight 20 July 1933 - The Angers "12 Hour Contest" - 'Zodiac 17' photo
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1933/1933%20-%200154.html

M.120 - 1932 low-wing monoplane trainer/tourer, 1 x 60 hp Salmson 9Adr, 116 built
- M.120: PM XII deriv. (PM XII consid. prototype), wooden constr.
-- M.120/32: 1932 Zodiac-built M.120, 3 built (c/n 104, 106,* 109)
--- * NB: M.120/32 c/n 106 subsequently rebuilt by Brequet as an M.120/34
-- M.120/34: Breguet-built M.120, 10 built (c/n 111-121*, 113 was rebuilt M.112)
-- ** NB: count incl. c/n 113 (rebuilt M.112) but not c/n 106 (rebuilt 120/32)
-- M.120/34: photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/24241775@N04/5592475114/
- M.120/37: [Project] 2-seat tandem trainer, became M.123 Corsaire (below)

M.121 - 1935 Corsaire Major, 1 x 75 hp Pobjoy R, aka M.121-35, 4 built (incl. M.121P)
- M.121P: Corsaire Major, 1 x 85 hp 7-cyl Pobjoy R Cataract, 1 built (F-AMHS)

M.122 - 1935 Corsaire Major, record a/c for Maryse Hilz, 75 hp Salmson 9, 1 built
-- For women's light aircraft altitude record (7338 m category), 24 Sept 1935

M.123 - 1937 2-seat low-wing monoplane trainer, 1 x 60 hp Salmson 9Adr, 11.75m span
- M.123: Corsaire, 60 for Aviation Populaire, wooden const., 1st flight Dec 1937
-- M.123 stemmed from 1936 Fouga contract for para-military training aircraft
- M.123C: M 129/48 (F-PJKQ, below) with Minié replaced by flat 4-cyl Continental
- M.123M: [Project] 70 hp Minié flat 4-cyl, later produced with 75hp Minié (below)
- M.123M Corsaire: post-WWII mod, 75 hp Minié 4DC32 flat 4-cyl, canopy, M = Minié
-- M.123M re-engined with 60 hp geared Salmson 9Adr by Gilbert Pollono, 1954
--- NB: 1958 Pollono re-engined with 75 hp Régnier, turning M.123M into M.125
-- M.123M (F-BCEP) re-engined with a Continental by Simon Glotin at Nates, 19??
-- M.123M re-engined with a 105 hp Hirth engine bu M Grenet of Beynes, 1960
- M.123R: [Project] 60 hp Régnier inverted 4 cyl engine, not built (but see M-129-48)
- M.123T: [Project] 60 hp Train 6T 6-cyl inline, not built

M.124 - first postwar version with 1 x 60 hp Aster 4A inline 4-cyl*, 1 built
- * Flight says the Aster engine (a licenced Walter Mikron) produced 100 hp
-- Flight 5 Sept 1946 - Private Flying France
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1946/1946%20-%201729.html

M.125 - 1946 M.123 variant, 1 x 60 hp Régnier 4Jo inline 4-cyl, 5 built
- M.125: differed from M.123 in powerplant and shorter 10.35 m wingspan

M.126 - 1946 M.123 variant, 1 x 80 hp Salmson Salmson 5Ap radial, 1 built
- M.126: differed from M.123 in powerplant and shorter 10.35 m wingspan

M.127 - 1946 M.123 variant, 1 x 95 hp Régnier 4Eo inline 4-cyl, 2 built

M.128 - 1946 M.123 variant, 1 x 95 hp Mathis G4G flat 4-cyl, 1 built

M.129 - 1939, sim, to M-123M, 1 x 75 hp Minié flat 4-cyl, 29 built
- M.129-48: 1944 M-123 variant (F-BBSK, c/n 191), 1 x 75 hp Régnier 157 4.JO 4-cyl
- M.129-48: postwar production by Fouga, 1 x 75 hp Minié 4DO flat 4-cyl
-- M.129 (F-PJKQ) re-engined with Minié replaced by flat 4-cyl Continental

M.130 - [Project] 1933 sport monoplane 1 x 75 hp 7-cyl Pobjoy R radial, 10.05 m span
- M.130: single-seat lightplane vers. of M.112, unbuilt

M.131 - M.159 - [??]

M.160 - [Project] 1938 Vanneau, 2-seat trainer, 1 x 60 hp Régnier 4Do, span 10.5 m
- M.160: school aircraft designed for Aviation Populaire, none built
-- NB: Vanneau is the French for Plover

M.161 - M.189 - [??]

M.190 - [Project] 1938 Busard, 2-seat trainer, 1 x 95 hp Régnier 4Do,* span 10.5 m
- M.160: training aircraft designed for Aviation Populaire, none built
- MH.160: [Project] 1937 Adour, Busard seaplane (MH = Mauboussin Hydro), unbuilt
-- * Poss. typo for Régnier 4Eo; NB: Busard is the French for Harrier

M.191 - M.199 - [??]

M.200 - 1939 single-seat low-wing monoplane racer, 1 x 115 hp Régnier 4Eohp, 7.28m span
- M.200: 1 built (F-AROP) by Fouga, FAI record 255km/h over 1000 km, 7 May 1939

M.201 - 1939 single-seat trainer, 1 x 150 hp Régnier 4Eo, 7.28 m span, 1 built*
-- * Never completed, unfinished M.201 airframe may have been basis for the M.202
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13993.msg187167.html#msg187167

M.202 - 1941 single-seat trainer, 1 x 95hp* Régnier 4Eo, 7.28 m span, 1 built
-- http://pletav.free.fr/album/galeriessmall/gal2/poursite10.jpg
-- Flight 30 Sept 1943 - The French Aircraft Industry - 3 view drawing
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1943/1943%20-%202361.html
-- NB: Flight lists M.202 powerplant as a "950 h.p. (sic) Regnier"

M.203 - M.259 - [??]

M.260 - [Project] 1937 Elite 'executive' twin,* 2 x 60 hp Régnier 4DO, 10.5m span
- M.260: properly designated FM.260 [perhaps anticipating production by Fouga?]
-- FM.260 engine options: Régnier 4 DO inlines or "engines américans flat four"
-- * NB: unbuilt spatted M.260 influenced the design of the retractable-gear M.300

M.261 - M.299 - [??]

M.300 - 1939 tandem 2-seat low-wing trainer, 2 x 220 hp Renault 6Q10/11, 13.5m span
-- Flight 30 Sept 1943 - The French Aircraft Industry - 3 view drawing
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1943/1943%20-%202361.html
- M.300: 2 prototypes of wooden construction finally completed in 1948
-- http://pletav.free.fr/album/galeriessmall/gal2/poursite2.jpg

M.40 - Hémiptère, 1936 single-seat tandem-wing research a/c, 1 x 40 hp Train 4A
- M.40: c/n 01 F-AOYZ, endplate fins on high rear wing, infl. by Peyret project
-- Flight 17 Sept 1936 - Reviving the Tandem - details & photo
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1936/1936%20-%202533.html
- M.40 version hydro: [Project] pusher float deriv. of Hémiptère, see Rely #7

M.400 - [Project] 1939 biplane airliner, 2 x 350hp 6-cyl Bearn CMB 6B, 22.1 m span
- M.400: pusher engines in lower pods, u/c retracts rewards in pods
-- Flight 30 Sept 1943 - The French Aircraft Industry - artwork & 3 view
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1943/1943%20-%202361.html
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Castel-Mauboussin CM Designations

Castel-Mauboussin CM Designations


Pierre Mauboussin joined forces with glider designer Robert Castello in 1942, their designs being known under the Castel-Mauboussin name and assigned CM designations. Fouga had been producing designs by Mauboussin since 1936 and, in 1944, made Mauboussin their Director of Aviation Services working alongside Robert Castello.

Fouga retained the CM designation sequence (which was distinct from their earlier Castel C- numbers). In May 1958, Fouga was bought by Potez which also retained CM designations for Castello-Mauboussin designs and their derivatives.

Here, I am presuming that, as the first built Castel-Mauboussin design, the CM Jalon would also be the CM.1. But I cannot be sure. Does anyone have access to 'Planeurs et avions Castel Mauboussin' by Christian Castello, Editions Le Lézard, 1994?

That book by Robert Castello's son has a chapter on CM projects and the index lists a CM "Mach 1" but no designation number is given. Another designation mystery is the 8-10 pax light transport project (2 x Bastan mounted on butterfly tail) mentioned by Jens.
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1448.msg47098.html#msg47098
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CM Jalon - 1944 2-seat tandem, 14.1 m span, experimental glider, 2 built
- CM Jalon: n° 1 first flown Nov 1944, n° 2 first flown 22 Sept1945
-- aka CM-ONERA Jalon (n° 2 based at ONERA, Brétigny from 1947)

CM.2 - CM.5 - [??]

CM.6 --- [Project] 1941 Adour 1-seat wooden sailplane, 18 m span, unbuilt
- CM.6: antipates 2-seat CM.7 but with ungulled, straight-tapered wings
-- j2mc Planeurs - Castel-Mauboussin CM-06 Adour - specs & 3 view
-- http://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=2864

CM.7 --- Adour, 1948 2-seat wooden gull-winged sailplane, 18 m span
- CM.7 Adour: [Project] 1941, for Commissariat général aux Sports
-- Intended for sports flying, blind flying, and acrobatics instruction
- CM.7: Fouga-built model (hence aka Fouga CM.7 Adour), 2 built
-- 1947: 2 x slightly different CM.7 vers., later broke several height /distance records

CM.8 --- [Project] 1942 1-seat wooden gull-wing acrobatic glider, 13.5 m span
- CM.8 Acro: scaled-down, single-seat devel. of CM.7 Adour, led to CM-8/13.

CM.8 --- 1949 single-seat sailplane, aka Fouga CM.8, aka CM-8/13 ... et al
- CM.8 Acro: [Project] 1942 [above]
- CM.8/13: 13m span aerobatic prototype with conventional empennage, 1 built
- CM.8/15: 15m span aerobatic prototype with a V-tail, 1 built
-- CM.8/13 & CM.8/15 photo: http://pletav.free.fr/album/CM/73p114.jpg
- CM.8R: Turbomeca Piméné-powered vers., 13m span with V-tail, aka CM.8R13
-- CM.8R13: 1949 Sylph I, aka Cyclone (renamed at insistance of Wright)
-- CM.8R15: 1949 Sylph I, aka Cyclone (renamed at insistance of Wright)
--- Cyclone/Sylph I: July 1949, 2 built, F-WFOI and F-WFOJ [F-BFOJ]
-- CM.8R13: 1950 Sylph II, changes to Piméné jet and canopy, 1 built
-- CM.8R13: 1952 Sylph III, 100+ kg Piméné, revised canopy and u/c
--- Sylph III, 4 built F-BFDH, F-BFDI, F-BFDJ, and F-BFDK
-- CM-08R9.8 Cyclope I: 1951 short-span Sylph, 1 x 110 kg Piméné, 1 built
-- CM-08R9.8 Cyclope II: 1951 short-span Sylph, 1 x 160 kg Palas, 1 built
- CM.8/13 Sylphe démotorisé: CM-8R/13 with motorization option removed
- CM.82R: Lutin (Goblin) 3/4 scale model for the CM.821R (below)
-- CM.82R: 2 x Turbomeca Palas turbojets mounted underwing
- CM.821R: [Project] trainer/ground attack, 2 x Turbomeca Marboré
-- CM.821R: 1 x 20mm HS 404 M.49 cannon, 12 x underwing RPs
-- https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1951/1951 - 1232.PDF
- CM.88: twin-fuselage vers. of CM.8R as engine testbed, 1 built
-- CM.88R Gémeaux I: Mar 1951, 2 x 100 kg Piméné turbojets, aka CM.88.R I
-- CM.88R Gémeaux II: June 1951, 2 x 300 kg Marboré I, aka CM.88.R II
-- CM.88R Gémeaux III: Aug 1951, 2 x 380 kg Marboré I, aka CM.88.R III
--- NB: CM.88.RIII/Gémeaux III was re-engined CM.88.R II/Gémeaux II
-- CM.88R Gémeaux III: Jan 1952, 2 x 400 kg Marboré I, aka CM.88.R III
--- CM.88.RIII/Gémeaux III re-engined with 400 kg Marboré II, Jan 1952
-- CM.88R Gémeaux IV: Nov 1951, 2 x 200 kg Turbomeca Aspin I, aka CM.88.R IV
--- NB: CM.88.RIV/Gémeaux IV was Gémeaux I re-engined with ducted turbojet
-- CM.88R Gémeaux IV: June 1952, 2 x 360 kg Turbomeca Aspin II, aka CM.88.R V
--- NB: CM.88.RV/Gémeaux 5 was CM.88.RIV/Gémeaux IV re-engined with Aspin II

CM.9 --- [Project] poss. cargo glider, pod-boom with rear clamshell doors
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1778.0

CM.10 -- 1947 wooden assault glider, 35 troops, 26.96 m span, 2 prototypes
- CM.10: Fouga-built glider prototypes evaluated by Armée de terre, 1947
-- Prod. order for 25 (SNCAN-built) cancelled after crash of CM.10 n° 1
- CM.100: 1949 powered vers., 2 x Snecma 12S (As 411), 1 built (F-WFAV)
-- NB: study begun Nov 1944 for Armée but civil vers. envisioned by SGAC
-- CM.100 photo http://pletav.free.fr/album/CM/68p108.jpg
- CM.101R: F-WFAV with added wingtip-mounted Turboméca Piméné turbojets
- CM.102 : CM.100 development with retractable undercarriage
- CM.103R: [Project] military CM.101R variant, 2 x Turboméca Marbore turbojets

CM.10 -- [Project] 1952 17m span, V-tailed sailplane, CM-8/15 replacement

CM.11 - CM.16 -- [??]

CM.17 -- [Project] 1952 single-seat sailplane, V tail, 17 m span, unbuilt
CM.17: CM-8/15 repl., poss. unseq. desig., referring instead to wing span

CM.18 - CM.23 - [??]

CM.24 -- [??] 1950 glider, no details [Project?]

CM.25 - CM.70 - [??] (NB: 30-32, 34-36, and 38 were Castel C- numbers)

CM.71 -- 1952 2-seat CM-7 repl. sailplane, orig. V tail,* 18m span, 3 built
- CM.71: unseq. desig. may refer to CM.71's intended role as a CM-7 repl.**
-- * CM.71 n° 1 & n° 2 with V tails, CM.71 n° 3 with cruciform empennage
-- ** CM 71 devel., straight wing/no gull dihedral. built by Fouga,1951-52
-- j2mc Planeurs - Castel-Mauboussin CM-71 - photo, specs, & 3 views
-- http://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=360

CM.72 - [Project ??] sailplane ??

CM.73 - CM.90 - [??]

CM.90 -- [unseq., error?] Potez (Aerospatiale) CM.170 evol., 2 x Astafans

CM.91 - CM.99 - [??] (NB: For CM.10x numbers, see CM.10, above)

CM.104 - CM.119 - [??]

CM.120 - CM.100 military development (poss. retractable u/c)

CM.121 - CM.129 - [??]

CM.130 - [Project] 1948 Fouga jet primary trainer, 2 x Turbomeca Palas turbojets
- CM.130: aka CM.130R, AdA considered underpowered with twin Palas engines
- CM.131: aka CM.131R,2 x Turbomeca Palas turbojets, 13m2 wing area

CM.140 - [??]
CM.150 - [??]

CM.160 - [Project] 1949 Fouga jet primary trainer, led to CM.170 Magister

CM.170 - 1950 Fouga Magister trainer designed with Eng Szydlowski from Turbomeca
- CM.170: Magister, 3 prototypes (1952), 10 pre-production a/c (1955)
-- aka CM.170R ('R' for Réaction = Jet-propelled)
-- NB: CM.170 No 2 first fitted with cruciform tail, then the 'V' type
- CM.170-1: Magister, 1955, 1st production vers., 2 x Marboré IIA, 761 built
- CM.170M Magister - 1956, CM-170 Marin, 2 x Aéronavale PoC a/c, led to Zéphyr
-- CM.170M aka as CM.170 Esquif ('Wherry')
- CM.170-2 Magister - 1960, 2nd production vers., 2 x Marboré IV, 137 built
--
CM.170-2 prototype designation may have been CM.209 (qv)

CM.171 - 1956 Makalu, CM.170 n°15 conv. to take 2 x Turbomeca Gabizo turbojets
- CM.171: consid. engine testbed a/c for CM.195 project
-- http://pletav.free.fr/avionsplan/photosavions/makaluph.jpg

CM.172 - (Project) 1956 twin-tubojet testbed akin to CM.171
- CM.172: 2 x 2,645 lbf SNECMA R 105 Vesta turbojets
- CM.172: 2 x ?? lbf Hispano-Suiza R.800 turbojets*
-- * Gabizo chosen by MdA over R.105 and R.800 types

CM.173 - 1966 Super Magister, 2 x 480 kg Marobé VI (Marboré Super VI), 1 prototype
- CM.173: aka Potez 94, higher-power CM.170 deriv. for South African market

CM.174 - [??] "Loi des aires" [??]

CM.175 Zéphyr - Aéronavale shipboard trainer deriv. from CM.170M
-- Flight 20 June 1958 refers to Zéphyr as the "CM.175 Esquif" (sic)
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1958/1958 - 0841.html

CM.176 - [Project] CM.170 close support, 2 x 20mm HS-404 cannons, 18 rockets
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,441.msg5544.html#msg5544

CM.177 - [??]

CM.178 - [Project] CM.170 deriv. with over-wing turboprops, 2 x Turbomeca Astazous
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,441.msg5272.html#msg5272

CM.179 - [??]

CM.180R - (??) Magister testbed, single engine above fuselage
- CM.180R: Akin to enlarged, single-fuselage CM.88, see reply #39

CM.181 -
CM.190 - [??]

CM.191 - 1956 4-seat corporate jet deriv. of CM.170, 2 x Marboré IV, 2 built
- CM.191: aka Potez-Heinkel C.M.191, aka Heinkel P.191, first flown 1962

CM.192 - [??] (Messier project nos. 48046/48007 and 27457/48008)
- CM.192: Flight 1 June 1961 ident. Potez-Heinkel C.M.192 as per C.M.191
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1961/1961 - 0729.html

CM.193 - [??]
CM.194 - [??]

CM.195 - [Project] 1955 light transonic interceptor, 2 x 1100 kg Turbomeca Gabizo
- CM.195: 2-seat, enlarged CM.170 layout with swept wings and tail
-- Flight 24 June 1955 ident. CM.195 as a trainer, CM.171 as the testbed
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1955/1955 - 0873.html

CM.196
- CM.208 - [??]

CM.209 - 1960 Fouga Magister deriv. w/ different engines
- CM.209: 2 x 1,055 lbf Marboré IV (vs. 880 lbf Marboré IIA)
-- Alt. or prototype desig. for prod'n CM.170-2 Magister

CM.210 - [Project] 1954 twin-engined, delta-winged tactical attack a/c
- CM.210: 2 x 1200 kg Hispano-Suiza R-800, CM.170-like intakes, bicycle u/c
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1448.0
-- Note CM.210/CM.212 desig. confusion, see Reply #49
- CM.210 armament: 1 x 30mm cannon, 32 small-calibre rockets

CM.211 - [??]

CM.212 - [??] Widely confused with C.210 project
-- 'CM.212' misprint originated with Docavia 28

CM.213 - CM.219 - [??]

CM.220 - [Project] 1956 COIN a/c, 2 x Turbomeca Astazous over-wing turboprops
- CM.220: wing sim. to CM.178 but shoulder-mounted, fixed u/c, conv. tail
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,441.msg5340.html#msg5340

CM.221 - CM.229 - [??]

CM.230 - [Project] 1956 high-wing monoplane AOP a/c, 1 x 305 hp inline Potez 6D
- CM.230: slatted wing, tandem 2-seater (plus space for a stretcher case)
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1448.msg12159.html#msg12159

CM.311P - 1950 Castel C 310P devel. with improved de-rigging, longer oval-shaped fuselage, new air brakes

CM "Mach I" - [??]
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Re: Avions Mauboussin M Designations

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Avions Mauboussin

M.40 - Hémiptère, 1936 single-seat tandem-wing research a/c, 1 x 40 hp Train 4A
- M.40: c/n 01 F-AOYZ, endplate fins on high rear wing, infl. by Peyret project
-- Flight 17 Sept 1936 - Reviving the Tandem - details & photo
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1936/1936%20-%202533.html
Does anyone happen to know of any other tandem-winged designs or projects by Mauboussin that may have been inspired by the M.40 Hémiptère?
 

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Hi Mole
You have also the S.F.C.A.Lignel "Cross country"
IF you want.
 

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You have also the S.F.C.A.Lignel "Cross country"
IF you want.
toura,
THANK YOU so Much for sharing those wonderful (to my jaded eyes) magazine cutouts!!!!
May I contact you (pm) to ask further questions concerning Payret?
Please post the others, please!!!!
Maybe Albessard things too???? One always hopes beyond reality!
 

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Shouldn't we add the Castello designations ( Yanapour II to C.30S) ?
 

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Thanks very much, toura. I believe that the Peyret designs you posted are actually earlier than Mauboussin M.40, but content on the M.40 itself is very interesting. Would it be possible for you to post the next page in the article and to provide the source (name, issue, page, date)? Cheers, Matthew

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From an old "aviation magazine"
 

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Hi Mole
Yes !
The name of the magazine is "AVIATION MAGAZINE"
several numbers during circa 1980 ???
I could't tell you !!! Sorry !

Some more
 

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HI ALL
Peyret with Bleriot, the begining of the Alerion and Taupin !
 

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The book "French Post-war Transport Aircraft" (Air Britain, 1980) by Chillon, Dubois and Wegg has an unbuilt Castel-Mauboussin derivitive of CM.10/CM.-100 family ....

CM.103R - as CM.101R with the two Turbomeca Marbore auxiliary turbojets. A military variant that was not built.
 

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Excellent. Thanks for that Cy-27! But, if there was a CM.101R and a CM.103R project, there must be a 'CM.102' lurking out there ;D
 

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Re: Avions Mauboussin M Designations

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M.201 - 1939 single-seat trainer, 1 x 150 hp Régnier 4Eo, 7.28 m span, 1 built
The M.201 was not completed, and the unfinished aircraft possibly became the sole M.202. (Source: Avions no.164, article by M. Siffre.)
 

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Thanks for that c460. A note has been added under M.201.
 

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Castel 24 tandem two seat glider with an 18 metre span from 1936.

The Castel 242 was a 1941 development from the "Air Sports Service" with a new swept wing which offered poor handling built good soaring performance. One glider was lost in a fatal accident at the Challes les Eaux Centre in 1945. Other examples set a series of duration records 1946-1948.

Castel 25 was the side-by-side tandem two seat glider

The Castel-Mauboussin CM 7 was built in two slightly different versions in 1947 and later broke several height and distance records.

The CM 71 was a development of the CM 7 with a straight wing and no gull dihedral. Constructed at the Fouga factory 1951-52.

Castel-Mauboussin CM 8-13 aerobatic sailplane. 13 metre wing span.

CM 8-15 high-performance sailplane with 15 metre span.

Castel-Mauboussin CM 8-R15 jet sailplane known as Cyclone powered by a Turbomeca 011.

A Castel Castel-Mauboussin CM 310P development from 1950 was the Castel-Mauboussin CM 311P with improved de-rigging arrangement. It also had a longer fuselage, oval in shape (the 310 was flat-sided). New air brakes with opening above and below the wings.

CM 311P Data

Wing span: 45 ft
Wing Area: 158 sq ft
Wing Aspect Ratio: 13.3
Empty Weight: 346 lb
Maximum Weight: 540 lb


Some notes on Castel-Mauboussin types attached.


Sources:
Various cuttings that I am fairly sure are from British Gliding Magazines from the early 1950's.
 

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Thanks Cy-27. Aren't the 310P and 311P usually listed as purely Castel designs?
 

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You are dead right, Apophenia, about the 310P being a Castel design, I was too enthusiastic with my cutting and pasting! I will edit the earlier entry.

The CM 311P is described as Castel-Mauboussin in the article though, together with the CM prefix in all cases.
 

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Interesting ... and confusing :eek: Thanks for checking Cy-27! The CM 311P has been added to the designation list.
 

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Hi,

CM.102 was developed from CM.100 with retractable landing gear.

CM.120 was a military version of CM.100,maybe also with retractable landing gear.
 

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Hi,

CM.131R was a project developed from CM.130.
 

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Thanks Hesham ... that's been added. With its reduced wing area, the CM.131R would have been a better performer.
 

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hesham said:
CM.120 was a military version of CM.100,maybe also with retractable landing gear.
A small Info about CM.120.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala/L'Ala%201949%2007.pdf
 

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Thanks Hesham. Those same-as-'Cyclone' turbojets would, of course, be the Turboméca Piméné.

Above in the text, when L'Ala says 'CM.10', they are actually referring to the CM.101R ... with the "turbogetti posti dietro i motori Argus" being Piméné jets mounted behind the Snecma 12S piston engines. Presumably, aft of the 12S engines was the originally intended position for the twin turbojets which ended up being wingtip-mounted.
 

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Many thanks for explanation,my dear Apophenia.
 

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My dear Apophenia,

please add this;
 

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OK my dear Apophenia,

and also this new,it's offered in French language,but here is a google translate;

This testbed after the CM-170 takes the designation CM-180 and is expected to receive
the test reactor on top of the fuselage to the manner of CM-88.
 
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