NASA new Rocket Liberty

[Michel Van]

NASA strike back, after US Congress and Senate, Kill ARES I & V
NASA and Alliant Techsystems goes international cooperation with EADS !


Liberty is de facto Big Stick with the Five-segment SSRB BUT with Ariane 5 core stage
First test launch 2013, Operational in 2015 for launch of Orion capsule to ISS


Info in German:
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/0,1518,786199,00.html
in English
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14901036
more data
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_(rocket)


By the way
in US Congress and Senate, the Telephones and cellular phone gonna be red hot
from very angry call of Lobbyist from Boeing, Lookheed-Martin, Grumman-Nortrop, SpaceX...

 

[sferrin]

By the way
in US Congress and Senate, the Telephones and cellular phone gonna be red hot
from very angry call of Lobbyist from Boeing, Lookheed-Martin, Grumman-Nortrop, SpaceX...

Who could blame them? There's absolutely ZERO reason the whole thing shouldn't be US designed and built.

 

[Grey Havoc]

IMAGE CREDIT: BBC News​

Liberty would launch from the Kennedy Space Center using existing infrastructure

IMAGE CREDIT: BBC News​

 

[Byeman]

It isn't a NASA rocket. it is a commercial rocket. It is ATK's and EADS', just like Delta and Atlas are ULA's

 

[sferrin]

It isn't a NASA rocket. it is a commercial rocket. It is ATK's and EADS', just like Delta and Atlas are ULA's

Okay. Companies just trying to survive. More power to them as long as it's not on the taxpayer's dime.

 

[GeorgeA]

There are questions on the air-start procedure for the Vulcain. Apparently it needs some pre-conditioning (but not as much as the RS-25) so it isn't, as the savants on NSF would term it, a Lego rocket. (How do you say "Lego" in French?)


They don't ask for my approval but dang if that isn't the ugliest rocket ever.

 

[pathology_doc]

Who could blame them? There's absolutely ZERO reason the whole thing shouldn't be US designed and built.

At least it's better than having to rely wholly on the Russians.

Hopefully we'll get back to the stage where we have NASA there to do what NACA once did - help the aircraft (now aerospace) companies out with technical and research issues they can't handle in-house, as opposed to running the whole show as essentially a government monopoly. Have we yet got an X-prize competition for the first commercial manned lunar touchdown and return? We should - with a bonus if the crew get back on home soil on or before the 50th anniversary of Armstrong's stroll. It surely can't be that hard, given that we did it six times in the valve and transistor era.

 

[Triton]

http://youtu.be/R2cnmxH9Hbg

http://youtu.be/1asG5MbGI4w

http://youtu.be/dI-uQ85LQPE

Source:
http://aerospaceblog.wordpress.com/2012/05/page/2/

 

[Hobbes]

Wouldn't this have the same problems as the Ares 1, ie severe vibration due to thrust oscillations in the first stage?

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Could this be an early variant?

 

[TomS]

The orange makes me think more Ares than Liberty. Looks sort of like they took a Shuttle-derived liquid first stage, a short SRM-derived second, and another Shuttle-derived third. Which strikes me as about the worst of all possible worlds.

 

[sferrin]

With that necking down to a solid booster in the middle it's definitely the ugliest.

 

[Michel Van]

Looks like two identical stages with liquid fuel, put together with something i hope is only a adapter, to match the Launch tower connections.

If that is really a Solid rocket motor between the stages with liquid fuel, its most bizarre launch rocket i ever saw !

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Isn't it bizarre? I found it on the FB page. Somebody was cleaning out his old files, found that, and was genuinely stumped. So he decided to share it. He doesn't have any info on it other than it's from around 2011.

Here's the page:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/176051159106442?view=permalink&id=1784180608293481&comment_id=1784892284888980&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1520496947950138&ref=m_notif

 

[Moose]

Going off memory, I recall discussions over at NSF about evolving Ares I to a liquid first stage after it was operational at minimal cost. This was, I believe, in response to the notion that the Ares V would evolve away from solids toward advanced liquid boosters. That image could be something that was thrown together to illustrate the idea, the DIRECT people had some good illustrators and it lead to a lot of people cranking out artwork in that time period.

 

[Michel Van]

Isn't it bizarre? I found it on the FB page. Somebody was cleaning out his old files, found that, and was genuinely stumped. So he decided to share it. He doesn't have any info on it other than it's from around 2011.

Here's the page:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/176051159106442?view=permalink&id=1784180608293481&comment_id=1784892284888980&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1520496947950138&ref=m_notif

Aries I was canceld in 2010
In that 2011 case it was alternative/competitor design to ATK's & EADS Liberty.
question is by who ?