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Nahuel - argentine tank

robunos

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On page 58 (page 69 of the PDF) of '"Fabrica Militar de Aviones, historias y testimonios",
see here :-

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,211.msg86741.html#msg86741

there's a picture of a very Sherman like tank.
As the picture caption is in spanish, another
language that I don't speak a word of, my
first thought was to post both picture and caption,
and then ask for more information.
However, I decide to Google instead, and found
some information.
Posted below are the picture and caption from the book,
and two links that I found.


cheers,
Robin.

The Caption :-
"Tanque Pesado de 60 toneladas bautizado DL NAHUEL (tigre en idioma
mapuche). El motor era el LORRAINE DIETRICH construido en Córdoba para
los aviones caza. El Tanque fue presentado en 1944 junto al avión de
entrenamiento avanzado I.Ae. 22 DL."

LINKS :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuel_(tank)

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/argentina/argentina.html
 

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The Caption :-
"Tanque Pesado de 60 toneladas bautizado DL NAHUEL (tigre en idioma
mapuche). El motor era el LORRAINE DIETRICH construido en Córdoba para
los aviones caza. El Tanque fue presentado en 1944 junto al avión de
entrenamiento avanzado I.Ae. 22 DL."

translation:
60 tons Heavy tank called Nahuel(Tiger in mapuche(native dialect))motor was Lorraine Dietrich build for fighter.Tank was introduced in 1944 for advanced training
 

robunos

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thanks for that, didn't realise it was so heavy.
I suppose one automatically thinks 'sherman copy',
when one sees it...


cheers,
Robin.
 

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I'm italian so sorry for my bad english.... The Nahuel was an emergency tank built to upgrade the aergentian's army. The problem was rapresented by the impossibility to import veichels from other main countries (expecially U.S.A.), that were too much involved into the war for sell precious battle tanks. The project began in 1943 and it was completely indigenuos, in spite of the similarity with the Sherman. By the 1945 there were produced only 19 tanks: no more were built because the end of the war allowed the government to buy Allies tanks surplus at lower prices, build a new tank was more expensive that buy one already made. The few Nahuels produced were retired from military service in few years.

There's someone who have a 3-wiew of this tank?

Thank you. :D
 

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Hi lucamax, your english is better than my italian!!

Are any of those 19 produced still around?
 

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kaiserbill said:
Hi lucamax, your english is better than my italian!!

Are any of those 19 produced still around?

Thank you! :D

I know that by the '60 the major part of Nahuel were abandoned in military deposits. I think that they were dismantled at least.
 

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perspective, side view in colour, and book in spanish refered to Nahuel DL 43
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Quite a remarkable technical achievement by the Argentinians, in my view. Aside from constructing a 60 ton tank, it is not a simple matter to adapt a fighter engine for use in a tank and to design and build a suitable transmission seems almost beyond belief, for Argentina in 1944.
 

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Nahuel on parade.
 

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Is that 4 view drawing distorted? It appears much narrower than the photos show.
 

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Kadija_Man said:
Is that 4 view drawing distorted? It appears much narrower than the photos show.

Had the same idea, but the gun muzzle, the headlights, the turret roof and hatch, which
seem to be circular, actually are circular in the drawing. So it cannot be simply a distortion.
But I agree, that on the photos the tank seems to be wider.
 

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Hello.
I will make fast comments:
- It was 35 and 36 tons.
- There were produced only 12 vehicles.
- Nahuel means Jaguar, not tiger and not puma.
I have made several articles here in the Reporte de Batalla blog.
Regards
 

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Dear Herman,
Can we agree to disagree on your comment about adapting fighter engines to AFVs?

The bulk of American M3 and M4 tanks were powered by Wright/Continental R-1820, air-cooled, radial, airplane engines. They were prized for their high power to weight ratio. Many M3 Stuart light tanks were powered by Continental W-670, 7-cylinder, air-cooled, radial engines adapted from aircraft engines.

Post WW2, British Centurion tanks were powered by Rolls-Royce Merlin, airplane engines that were de-rated to run on lower octane pool petrol. Those Meteor engines had great power to weight ratios, but were a b****** tch to maintain. When those Meteor engines wore out, (1960s) many Second and Third World countries re-engined their Centurions with diesels. The other reason for switching to diesel was reducing fire risk.
 
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As an aside, Switzerland developed a similar-looking tank during the 1950s. At first glance, Pz 58 and Pz 61 looked like Shermans with cast hulls. Production Pz 61 were armed with British 84 mm, 20 pounder guns. All up weight was 38 tons.
 

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Hello.
I will make fast comments:
- It was 35 and 36 tons.
- There were produced only 12 vehicles.
- Nahuel means Jaguar, not tiger and not puma.
I have made several articles here in the Reporte de Batalla blog.
Regards

Thank you for the additional information and link . . .

cheers,
Robin.
 
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