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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skyraider3D" data-source="post: 75081" data-attributes="member: 2039"><blockquote data-quote="Justo Miranda">"Triebflügel" armament:- 2 x MG 151/20- 2 x MK 103/30Post-2</blockquote>Please be adviced that the thrust/lift diagram was crafted up by me and is nothing official. I drafted that up when I was making my <a href="http://digitalaviationart.com/skyraider3d/trieb_1.htm">3D model</a> and trying to figure out how the Triebflügeljäger was supposed to fly. The clue was in the 6-degree downward angle of the guns, which meant that the Trieb should fly nose-up when attacking and voilà: there's your lift vector! In fact most guns are mounted a couple of degrees up, so a flight angle of 7.5 or 8 degrees during the attack profile is more likely (and would increase the lift component even further). So yes, perhaps the Trieb could actually fly! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />  Control would be another story. I tend to see this Triebflügeljäger as a manned, rotor-driven missile rather than an aircraft.I do wonder why nobody ever tried making an RC variant of it to test it out... :<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />In any case, good luck with your scratchbuilding, looking forward to the work-in-progress pictures! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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