Lockheed NF-104A

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At least the Starfighter found out its rocket engine...
 

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Archipeppe,


You have done it again....beautiful work.


Now THAT is the way to fly...J79 plus rocket power. What a wonderful aircraft.
 
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
 
topspeed3 said:
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
Yes - one tail-mounted rocket motor - as the beautiful drawings above illustrate. -SP
 
Typo in the picture, the RCS also used H2O2, not "H2O4".
 
Just for the record, the RCAF took a totally stock F-104A over 100,000 feet in 1967. The aircraft never flew again after this flight, having exceeded many limits along the way (including reaching 1,800 mph in a dive before the zoom climb). See the story here. I also recall a USAF F-104C breaking 100,000 feet at Edwards.

I think the main intention of the NF-104A was not to just operate at higher altitude, but to train future space plane pilots in the use of things like rocket boosters and reaction controls.
 
Steve Pace said:
topspeed3 said:
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
Yes - one tail-mounted rocket motor - as the beautiful drawings above illustrate. -SP

But that was not even invented when the flight took place ?
 
topspeed3 said:
Steve Pace said:
topspeed3 said:
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
Yes - one tail-mounted rocket motor - as the beautiful drawings above illustrate. -SP

But that was not even invented when the flight took place ?
F-104s were able to reach 100,000 ft + without being equipped with the NF-104A's tail-mounted rocket motor. Bill Walker has already mentioned this, he also links to the story of a Canadian CF-104 that reached 100,110 ft.
Starting at an altitude of 45,000 feet, and flying along the jet stream, W/C White dove to about 32.000 feet to gain speed before he started the climb to his [Canadian] altitude record.
Your question:
"How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?" - I take it you refer to this:
1959 December 14
First flight over 100.000 ft to 31,513 m (103,389 ft) world altitude record by Capt "Joe" B. Jordan in F-104C serial number 56-0885 at Edwards AFB.
Found here: http://www.916-starfighter.de/F-104_chronology.htm
Joe Jordan's F-104C s/n 56-0885 was not fitted with a rocket motor. As far as I know, NASA's NF-104As were the only rocket-equipped F-104s.

As Bill Walker has already stated:
Bill Walker said:
I think the main intention of the NF-104A was not to just operate at higher altitude, but to train future space plane pilots in the use of things like rocket boosters and reaction controls.
 

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