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I recently visited this site about Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant and found some Kamov designations I never heard of:

http://www.mi-helicopter.ru/eng/getarticle.php?id=152

  • Ka-9
  • Ka-11
  • Ka-12 multi-purpose nine-seat helicopter
  • Ka-14-1 light multipurpose helicopter
  • Ka-14-2

I'm also curious about this designation as well: Kamov Ka-41.

If anyone has any information on these, perhaps pictures, that would be great.

Thanks. ;D

--Travis
 
Ka-41 designation was used in the west for the Ka-50 Hokum prior to the real designation being revealed. Its not real.

Regarding the others, how about posting here what the article says about each?
 
The Paul of the rights.
Ka-12 see here:http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,898.105.html
 
Okay, thanks. ;D

Regarding the others, how about posting here what the article says about each?
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Okay, see here:

Kamov designers developed the following projects at GOSZ No. 3: the Ka-11 which continued the concept of a small single-seat helicopter; the Ka-12 multi-purpose nine-seat helicopter featuring an unusual single-rotor layout with two coaxial anti-torque rotors; the Ka-14-1 light multipurpose coaxial-layout helicopter; and the Ka-14-2 heavy tandem twin-rotor helicopter powered by two Shvetsov ASh-82 engines.
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Well, I guess I don't need that much info after all. It would be nice, though, that pictures be provided.

Thanks. ;D
 
Sure. But you see how that worked? You posted some information. Try it again sometime ;)
 
I read some more in my International Combat Arms magazine and found that the Ka-50 was also designated Ka-34.

I even found an image, from a website. I could't get the picture from the magazine.

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Found another designation, Ka-17. It used coaxial rotors, and the Ka-8 "Flying Motorcycle" was derived from it. Any additional info or pics? That would be great. Thanks. ;D
 
Hi to all!
I have found in my archieve so called Statcard about Ka-11. It was project of 2 NK-1 piston engine helicopter with nickname "Baikal"/ Date - 19/12/1947. Somewhere in my folders must be sketch, but I need time to find, sorry.
Main data:
L-10,8 m
B- 6,8 m
H- 3 m
Three blade propeller, diameter 3,6 m
Who needs HR pix - contact directly
Regards
 

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Hi,

there was two Kamov Ka-12 projects,first Ka-12 powered by one
M-21 as single seat helicopter of 1945,and the second Ka-12 as
a 5-seat light weight helicopter and called Rodina.

Ka-14-1 was a multi-purpose nine-seat helicopter,powered by one
ASH-82 engine.

Ka-14-2 was a troop heavy transport helicopter weight 16 ton
and powered by two ASH-82FN engines.

Ka-16 was a large four-crew transport helicopter,also there is two
anther V-50 projects,first as long range helicopter and the second
was well known.

Ka-60K was also called Ka.65 to used from ship board and Ka-90
was also called Ka.100.

http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/38/
 
ucon when it will be possible to look at a picture or the drawing on helicopter Ka-11 and whether there are what documents under Kamov's early projects.
 
I believe this is the Kamov Ka-34 heavy lift helicopter (cleverly marked Yellow 34):
 

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circle-5 said:
I believe this is the Kamov Ka-34 heavy lift helicopter (cleverly marked Yellow 34):
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It is.
 

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circle-5 said:
I believe this is the Kamov Ka-34 heavy lift helicopter (cleverly marked Yellow 34):
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You got it, except that earlier on I had referred to the designation alternatively being applied to the Ka-50 as reported in ICA magazine (re-use of designation or such, because I had actually known of the heavy-lift compound design already). Of course, me not being very attentive back then, I had not realized it was a simple reporting mistake. ::)
 
hesham said:
Ka-14-1 was a multi-purpose nine-seat helicopter,powered by one
ASH-82 engine.

Ka-14-2 was a troop heavy transport helicopter weight 16 ton
and powered by two ASH-82FN engines.

Ka-16 was a large four-crew transport helicopter,also there is two
anther V-50 projects,first as long range helicopter and the second
was well known.
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From this book,and here's the translate,

In support of this, it should be noted that OKB-4 developed projects for heavier machines, but with different layouts. For example, the Ka-14 with a longitudinal
layout and one ASh-73ZV engine and the Ka-16 with two ASh-82T engines.
 

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We can say about its designation,

Skr-1,Skr-2,AK,Ka.8,Ka.9Ka.10,Ka.11,Ka.12,Ka.14-1 & Ka.14-2,Ka.15,Ka.16,
Ka.17,Ka.18,Ka.19,Ka.20,Ka.22,Ka.25,Ka.26,Ka.27,Ka.28,Ka.29,Ka.30,Ka.31,
Ka.32,Ka.33,Ka.34,Ka.35,Ka.36,Ka.37,Ka.40,Ka.41,Ka.50,Ka.52,Ka.54,Ka.56,
Ka.58,Ka.60,Ka.62,Ka.64,Ka.65,Ka.90,Ka.92,Ka.100,Ka.102,Ka.115,Ka.117,
Ka.118,Ka.126,Ka.128,Ka.135,Ka.136,Ka.137,Ka.215,Ka.226,Ka.252,Ka.327,
V-50,V-60,V-80 and V-100.
 
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hesham said:
We can say about its designation,

Skr-1,Skr-2,AK,Ka.8,Ka.9Ka.10,Ka.11,Ka.12,Ka.14-1 & Ka.14-2,Ka.15,Ka.16,
Ka.17,Ka.18,Ka.19,Ka.20,Ka.22,Ka.25,Ka.26,Ka.27,Ka.28,Ka.29,Ka.30,Ka.31,
Ka.32,Ka.33,Ka.34,Ka.35,Ka.36,Ka.37,Ka.40,Ka.41,Ka.50,Ka.52,Ka.54,Ka.56,
Ka.58,Ka.60,Ka.62,Ka.64,Ka.65,Ka.90,Ka.92,Ka.100,Ka.102,Ka.115,Ka.117,
Ka.118,Ka.126,Ka.128,Ka.135,Ka.136,Ka.137,Ka.215,Ka.226,Ka.252,Ka.327,
Ka.430,V-50,V-60,V-80 and V-100.
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What is this supposed to contribute?
 
Again, @hesham, where did you find the reference to a Kamov project with the designation Ka 430? Unless you can convince me otherwise, the Ka 430 was a military transport glider designed by Albert Kalkert at the Gothaer Waggonfabrik and produced in very small numbers. The type abbreviation Ka is not unique to designs by Nikolai Ilyich Kamov!
 
boxkite said:
Again, @hesham, where did you find the reference to a Kamov project with the designation Ka 430? Unless you can convince me otherwise, the Ka 430 was a military transport glider designed by Albert Kalkert at the Gothaer Waggonfabrik and produced in very small numbers. The type abbreviation Ka is not unique to designs by Nikolai Ilyich Kamov!
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OK my dear Boxkite,

and I have a reference in my files, Scale Aviation Modeller 2001,may
I read it wrong.
 
Piotr Butowski also brings the project of a super-heavy transport helicopter project with the designation V-250 into play. However, I am still looking for confirmation of this from a second independent source. Until then, I would put a question mark over the designation. Can our Russian users contribute anything about the V-250?

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Source: Air Enthusiast 1/1997
 
Another "super-heavyweight" project was proposed by the Kamov Design Bureau based on a five-bladed rotor with a diameter of 125 meters and a jet drive from a turbojet engine. According to calculations, such a super-heavy crane helicopter could create a lifting force of 600 tons, which made it possible to transport large-sized and heavy industrial equipment weighing up to 250 tons on an external sling!
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- General designer S. V. Mikheev - International United Biographical Center (Moscow 2013)
 

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hesham said:
We can say about its designation,

Skr-1,Skr-2,AK,Ka.8,Ka.9Ka.10,Ka.11,Ka.12,Ka.14-1 & Ka.14-2,Ka.15,Ka.16,
Ka.17,Ka.18,Ka.19,Ka.20,Ka.22,Ka.25,Ka.26,Ka.27,Ka.28,Ka.29,Ka.30,Ka.31,
Ka.32,Ka.33,Ka.34,Ka.35,Ka.36,Ka.37,Ka.40,Ka.41,Ka.50,Ka.52,Ka.54,Ka.56,
Ka.58,Ka.60,Ka.62,Ka.64,Ka.65,Ka.90,Ka.92,Ka.100,Ka.102,Ka.115,Ka.117,
Ka.118,Ka.126,Ka.128,Ka.135,Ka.136,Ka.137,Ka.215,Ka.226,Ka.252,Ka.327,
V-50,V-60,V-80 and V-100.
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Here we go,

- KaSkr-1 was a tandem two-seat autogiro,based on Cierva C.8 and likewise
using Avro 504 (U-1) fuselage
- KaSkr-2 was a reconstruction of Skr-1,with much more powerful engine in
helmeted cowl forming part of new light-alloy fron end
- AK-1 was a side-by-side observation autogyro with side doors,and tricycle gear, single fin rudder on struts from rotor head and main gears, no wings
- A-7 was considerably more stream-lined than its predecessors. The rotor had
three blades, the fuselage was completely covered by a light alloy skin and the landing gear was streamlined
- A-7-3 was a last version,which had two small fins below the stabilizer, was
used during the last war for some observation missions
- Ka-8 was a single-seat helicopter of the simplest possible structure,it was
derived from the Ka-17,designed two years earlier, making use of the system of twin coaxial, contra-rotating rotors which dispensed with the need for a tail rotor. The low output of the two-cylinder motorcycle engine and its unsuitability for aeronautical use handicapped the aircraft, and in fact only three were built
- Ka-9 was used for the second example of the Ka-8 when it was tested at Plant No.3 with stabilizing devices on the rotor heads
- Ka-10 was developed from Ka-8,with better flight characteristics and reliability,
powered by one AI-4G pistone engine
- Ka-11 Baikel was a lightweight single seat helicopter project,powered by
one engine
- Ka-12 was a tandem two-seat helicopter project,1945,powered by one M-21
engine
- Ka-12 Rodina was a five seat light transport helicopter project,also
powered by one M-21 engine
- Ka-13 was a multi-purpose helicopter project,weight 6,500 kg
- Ka-14-1 was a multi-purpose nine-seat helicopter,powered by one
ASH-82 engine.
- Ka-14-2 was a troop heavy transport helicopter weight 16 ton
and powered by two ASH-82FN engines
- Ka-15 was a side-by-side two-seat large helicopter,powered by one
AI-4V piston engine
- Ka-16 was a large four-rotor transport helicopter project
- Ka-17 was a side-by-side two-seat light helicopter,powered by one engine
and had a V-tail fins
- Ka-18 was a four-seat version of Ka-15,as a multi purpose helicopter,
powered by one AI-4V engine
- Ka-19 was a "transformer" project - Precusor of Ka-25/26
- Ka-20 was anti-submarine ASW helicopter project
- Ka-21 ? was unknown or not used,but may it was the same as Project-X,
which was a Lisunov Li-2,fitted with two coaxial large rotors,may to raise
as a helicopter
- Ka-22 was a large airscrew-wing rotorcraft,heavy transport helicopter,with
capacity of 100 passenger,powered by two TV-2F turboshaft engines
- Ka-23 ? was unknown or not used,but may it was an agricultural autogyro
project,had twin boom and main one rotor,with another pusher propeller
- Ka-24 ?
- Ka-25 was an anti-submarine ASW helicopter,powered by two GTD-3F
turboshaft engines
- Ka-26 was a three-seat utility helicopter,intended for nulti-role duties,
powered by two M-14V-26 radial piston engines
- Ka-27 was a anti-submarine ASW and military medium helicopter,powered
by two 2230 shp Isotov TV3-117V turboshaft engines
- Ka-28 was an export version of the Ka-27PL. Max takeoff weight increased to 12,000 kg (26,000 lb), as well max fuel and range also increased
- Ka-29 was a transport and combat helicopter,based on Ka-27,powered
by two Isotov TV3-117VMA turboshaft engines
- Ka-30 was a snowmobile vehicle
- Ka-31 was a military helicopter for Russian navy,developed from Ka-27,
as a naval airborne early warning and control role,powered by two Isotov TV3-117VMAR turboshaft engines
- Ka-32 was a civil version of Ka-27,could accommodate 16 passenger,powered
by two Isotov TV3-117VMA turboshaft engines
- Ka-33 was a utility helicopter,developed from Ka-29,also
powered by two Isotov TV3-117VMA turboshaft engines
- Ka-34 was a heavy rotary-wing aircraft project
- Ka-35 (First) was the same as Ka-31SV,AEW helicopter
- Ka-35 was a heavy rotary-wing jet-powered aircraft project,the two turbojet engines were used with a rotor drive with overlapping disks of rotating blades. The rear cargo hatch ramp was used for loading and unloading equipment
- Ka-36 was also a snowmobile vehicle
- Ka-37 was a multi-purpose unmanned helicopter,UAH
- Ka-38 ?
- Ka-39 ?
- Ka-40 was a modern new design for anti-submarine ASW helicopter under development since 1990 to replace Ka-27
- Ka-41 ? the designation was used in the west for the Ka-50 Hokum prior to the
real designation being revealed. Its not real
- Ka-50 was a single seat attacke helicopter,also with coaxial rotor,powered
by two Isotov TV3-117VMA turboshaft engines
- Ka-52 was a side-by-side two-seat attack helicopter,based on Ka-50,powered
by two Isotov TV3-117VMA turboshaft engines
- Ka-54 ? was a single seat attack helicopter project,not sure
- Ka-56 was a ultra-light single seat helicopter
- Ka-58 ? was an attack fiction helicopter project,no confirming came from the
company itself
- Ka-60 was a military multi-role single-rotor,with fenestron tail boom,powered
by two RD-600V engines
- Ka-62 was a civilian version of Ka-60,could accommodate 16 passenger or 2
tons,powered by two RD-600V engines
- Ka-64 was a naval transport and utility helicopter version of Ka-60,powered
by two GE CT 7-2 D1 engines
- Ka-65 was a ship board helicopter,version of Ka-60,also powered by two
RD-600V engines
- Ka-90 was a high-speed helicopter project,with folding main rotor and
turbofan engine
- Ka-92 was a high-speed passenger transport helicopter project,could
accommodate 30 seat,powere by two Klimov VK-3000 turboshaft engines
- Ka-100 was a redesigned of Ka-90
- Ka-102 was a tanden-rotor heavy transport helicopter project,probably
powered by four engines
- Ka-115 was a five-seat light multi-purpose helicopter,powered by one
PW KD-206 D engine
- Ka-117 was an unmanned attack helicopter,with coaxial rotors
- Ka-118 was a light experimental helicopter,with NOTAR (no tail rotor), Kamov tested scheme on and now propose this multirole machine for pilot and four passengers. Single main rotor with swept tips, V-tail plus upper tailplane, skid gear. Engine not selected late 1993 and jet thruster design still in research. Prelim data assume single TVO-100 engine and 700 lit fuel
- Ka-126 was a light utility helicopter with coaxial rotor. Evolved from Ka-26
with engine pods removed from stub wings, fitted with one TVO-100
turboshaft engine positioned on top of fuselage, modified rotor blades,
new fuel system
- Ka-128 was a Ka-126 development with an added intermediate gearbox ,
and Bendix King avionics
- Ka-135 was a close-range, multi-purpose unmanned rotorcraft utilizing a two
coaxial main rotor
- Ka-136 ? was a mistake,as a devlopment of Ka-50
- Ka-137 was a reconnaissance UAV,powered by one Gobler Hirtmotoren «Hirt» piston two-stroke engine
- Ka-175 was a multi-service vehicle (may serve as a ship-based vehicle as well as the land-based one) attack and reconnaissance UAV
- Ka-215 was a twin engined version of five-seat Ka-115,powered by two
PW KD-206 D engines
- Ka-226 was a version of Ka-126,with two 420shp Allison 250-C20B turboshafts, deeper and wider two-seat cockpit with large windshield and nose, reshaped tail fins, modified transmission, enlarged cabin section with larger windows
- Ka-252 was anti-submarine ASW helicopter.led to develop Ka-25
- Ka-327 ? maybe a UAV
- Ka-



- To be continued
 
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