Japan 20000t SPY-7 guided missile destroyer/cruiser

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I was kinda expecting a ship with SPY7 to look less like a Burke superstructure.
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As with crabs, all converges on the burke architecture,
Álvaro, Kongo/Atago/Maya, Sejong, hell even the superstructures of the Hobart DDG and Nansen FFG have the characteristic angling.

I suspect its due to it being particularly favorable for the phased array's coverage.
 
FlameCxbra said:
As with crabs, all converges on the burke architecture,
Álvaro, Kongo/Atago/Maya, Sejong, hell even the superstructures of the Hobart DDG and Nansen FFG have the characteristic angling.

I suspect its due to it being particularly favorable for the phased array's coverage.
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Designs also start to look similar due to RCS optimisation and sensible layout.
 
Any rumours on what the names could be? I think it would be quite... interesting if they go with Yamato and Musashi, but also quite fitting lol
 
sesame2002 said:
Any rumours on what the names could be? I think it would be quite... interesting if they go with Yamato and Musashi, but also quite fitting lol
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I think they've been using old prefecture names for their big ships.

Which would put Musashi and Shinano in play, but not Yamato. Yamato is an old name for the entirety of Japan.

Also, using Yamato would be like USS United States, or the German cruiser Deutschland. That adds a whole lot of propaganda value to destroying the ship.
 
FlameCxbra said:
As with crabs, all converges on the burke architecture,
Álvaro, Kongo/Atago/Maya, Sejong, hell even the superstructures of the Hobart DDG and Nansen FFG have the characteristic angling.

I suspect its due to it being particularly favorable for the phased array's coverage.
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...Most of those are Burke derivatives, so no wonder they look alike.

And the Álvaro and Hobarts are siblings.

And the Japanese have undoubtly used their experience with building Burke derivatives to design these ships.
 
Scott Kenny said:
I think they've been using old prefecture names for their big ships.

Which would put Musashi and Shinano in play, but not Yamato. Yamato is an old name for the entirety of Japan.

Also, using Yamato would be like USS United States, or the German cruiser Deutschland. That adds a whole lot of propaganda value to destroying the ship.
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The JMSDF has been using mountain names for their Aegis destroyers and province names for the helicopter destroyers/aircraft carriers. Under the current naming scheme, Yamato and Musashi would be used for aircraft carriers.
 
Scott Kenny said:
I think they've been using old prefecture names for their big ships.

Which would put Musashi and Shinano in play, but not Yamato. Yamato is an old name for the entirety of Japan.

Also, using Yamato would be like USS United States, or the German cruiser Deutschland. That adds a whole lot of propaganda value to destroying the ship.
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There is(or was) a Yamato Province, that was roughly equivalent with the current Nara Prefecture.
 
What is it with the forum recently getting so hung up on irrelevant aspects as the naming of ships, missiles and aircraft?

There couldn't be anything less interesting about a given program or assembly as what the name will be.
 
JudgeKing said:
The JMSDF has been using mountain names for their Aegis destroyers and province names for the helicopter destroyers/aircraft carriers. Under the current naming scheme, Yamato and Musashi would be used for aircraft carriers.
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Okay, I stand corrected.

Still think that Yamato would be a poor choice for a ship name, for enemy-propaganda reasons.


EmoBirb said:
What is it with the forum recently getting so hung up on irrelevant aspects as the naming of ships, missiles and aircraft?

There couldn't be anything less interesting about a given program or assembly as what the name will be.
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A name of a ship says a lot about what the government building the ship thinks of it.
 
New video of ASEV assembly with a view of the newly installed superstructure from the front.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yqDMWsSV24


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That superstructure is much darker than the hull. Just different coatings or is it composite?
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I think there are some unpainted parts because the area around the radar requires special RAM paint to avoid interference. It isn't applied until after installation to avoid damaging the paint coat as its very expensive compared to regular ship paint which is also very expensive. It also might be left unpainted because there is still a lot of work for installing the radars and usually the construction crews will write instructions and notes on the actual structure.
 
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https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/259e6c05db8a13b67890b30e0b0b8e95c5163ae8
I don't think this has been posted yet despite being an older article.
上自衛隊が導入を進める新型「イージス・システム搭載艦（ASEV）」の2番艦が、2026年2月5日にジャパンマリンユナイテッド（JMU）横浜事業所磯子工場（横浜市）で起工されていたことが分かった。防衛装備庁が3月24日、筆者の取材に対して明らかにした。
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CG-192 started construction on February 5th in Yokohama. I don't know how well the sight lines into the Isogo Plant are, but maybe we might start seeing pics of it's construction soon.

2番艦は同工場で建造され、2027年度に進水し、2028年度末に海自へ引き渡される予定だ。一方、1番艦は2025年7月18日に三菱重工業長崎造船所（長崎市）で既に起工されており、2026年度に進水し、2027年度末の就役を目指して建造が進められている。
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CG-192 will launch in FY26 and commission in FY27
CG-192 will launch in FY27 and commission in FY28

Japan's FY starts on April 1st and they do most of their ship launches in March, so look forward to March of next year. We will see the completed ship and also finally know the name of the class.
 
I find it interesting that unlike many other large surface combatants, they're going for a rounded bow on the ASEV CGs.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/2097885790571548694
View: https://x.com/marbochin/status/2097885790571548694/photo/1

https://twitter.com/x/status/2097676645658452092
View: https://x.com/kt_666/status/2097676645658452092/photo/1

First smoke stack is on!

All thats left now is the rear smoke stack to helicopter hanger and the mast as far as structural components go which all seem to be staged in the background. After that its just fitting the various sensors and weapons, a lot of which can happen after launching the ship.

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If you look close there are some changes done from the scale model especially around the bridge, but overall this seems like close to the final product. Still its interesting they didn't go with UNICORN for the mast, but maybe its a little restricting in terms of sensor size.
 

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As an American, it's surreal to see a clean sheet aegis type ship goes from paper to construction in a finite number of years.

USN, you know how.... there's a way to get trump his "battleship" before his term ends like he wanted....
 
donnage99 said:
As an American, it's surreal to see a clean sheet aegis type ship goes from paper to construction in a finite number of years.

USN, you know how.... there's a way to get trump his "battleship" before his term ends like he wanted....
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I'm pretty sure that the Japanese government would take umbrage at the USN forcibly seizing the two ASEVs.
 
donnage99 said:
you know how.... there's a way to get trump his "battleship" before his term ends.
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It's entirely impossible for the USN to deliver such a ship before the mid 2030s. Americans simply can't built surface combatants in reasonable timeframes and seemingly can't built any surface combatants that aren't Arleigh-Burkes.

Reminds me of 'Warhammer 40.000' where, the Imperium of Man can only produce complex machinery when they have access to ancient schematics from the height of human technological development thousands of years ago. These schematics are called "STC" (Standard Template Construct). US shipyards only have the Arleigh-Burke STC left from the height of the Imperium Americana and are like the Imperium of Man not allowed to innovate new things, lol.
 
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