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Israeli Boost phase intercept system IBIS HA-10

AeroFranz

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There is a renewed interest in UAVs armed with boost phase intercept missiles. David fulghum's post on ARES

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog:27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post:da4f84ad-3383-42ea-9df8-0e09f25274ce

mentions two programs: Raptor Talon, which is fairly well known, and the Israeli IBIS HA-10.
This is all I could find on the subject, from Jane's website:

In 1993, Israel put forward a proposal to modify either Python 3 or Python 4 air-to-air missiles, enabling them to have a longer range to intercept tactical ballistic missiles in their boost or ascent phases. The modified missiles would have boost motor assemblies added and could be launched from aircraft or UAVs. This programme was called the Israeli Boost Intercept System (IBIS), and the missile was called the Missile Optimised Anti-Ballistic (MOAB). Reports in 1996 indicated a linkage between the IBIS programme and the US Boost Phase Intercept studies conducted by BMDO. The UAV design was completed by IAI and was believed to have the designator HA-10. The UAV would have cruised at between 7 and 15 km altitude, and would carry an IRST, laser range-finder, datalinks and two to four missiles. HA-10 was designed with low IR and radar signatures, and was planned to loiter for up to 24 hours on station with a payload of 1,000 kg. Rafael have described MOAB as a missile modified from the Python 4, by adding a boost motor assembly, giving the missile a velocity of 1.5 to 2.0 km/s and a range of 80 to 100 km. The missile would use a modified terminal IR seeker, with a laser range-finder sharing the optical path for fuze initiation. It is believed that the missile would have a length of 4.0 m, a body diameter of 0.16 m and a launch weight of 150 kg.

anyone's got pictures or more info?
 

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Here are a few pics that might make you go "hmmmm"
 

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Sweet!

(I don't recall where I got the pics but I know it wasn't from this. Might have been in an AIAA paper or something.)
 

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That presentation also includes the solid model of a HALE UAV with overwing engines. Nice bonus :)
 

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AeroFranz said:
That presentation also includes the solid model of a HALE UAV with overwing engines. Nice bonus :)

Now we just need videos of those launches :)
 

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http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1997/1997%20-%202049.html


The acceleration numbers seem strange though. Hibex accelerated to Mach 8+ in a second or two but it's peak acceleration rate was about 362Gs. ???
 

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AeroFranz said:
.... the Israeli IBIS HA-10.... anyone's got pictures or more info?

From http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/London_Meeting/UAV_trends_Tsach_part1.pdf (Presentation by Shlomo Tsach, Director of Flight Sciences, I.A.I., UAVNET London Meeting, 6/7 May 2004)

Also http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/Eilat_Meeting/HALE_UAV_Yaniv.pdf (inc IAI Tier II plus entry details)
 

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From http://www.cdi.org/missile-defense/uav.cfm

Originally, Israel was pushing for a UAV that could intercept missiles during their boost phases. The Israelis developed the HA-10, a stealthy, long-endurance UAV. They were able to make it several orders of magnitude stealthier than the U.S. Global Hawk's signature, but it was not quite stealthy enough (a spray-on stealth coating was created that could give a 5-10 decibels. reduction in radar reflectivity in the 5-10 gigahertz frequency range, but they needed one that would give a 15-25 decibels reduction). The HA-10 would carry two to three missiles dubbed the "MOAB" that would be based on the Python 4 and Python 5 missiles, but with larger warheads, infrared sensors and millimeter wave radar. The HA-10 was never built, as Israeli officials determined that, without American help, it was too technologically complex to be monetarily feasible.

Money for "Quick Look" HA-10 study by BMDO 98/99:
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/budget/peds_00c/PE0603870C.pdf
 

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From http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/London_Meeting/UAV_trends_Tsach_part1.pdf (Presentation by Shlomo Tsach, Director of Flight Sciences, I.A.I., UAVNET London Meeting, 6/7 May 2004)
Also http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/Eilat_Meeting/HALE_UAV_Yaniv.pdf (inc IAI Tier II plus entry details)
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Wow...complete three views and inboards. My hat's off to you. Lots of good information :)
 

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mr_london_247 said:
From http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/London_Meeting/UAV_trends_Tsach_part1.pdf (Presentation by Shlomo Tsach, Director of Flight Sciences, I.A.I., UAVNET London Meeting, 6/7 May 2004)

Also http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/Eilat_Meeting/HALE_UAV_Yaniv.pdf (inc IAI Tier II plus entry details)

This is HA-10, or something from Palmdale?
 

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damn, do anyone have copies of these?
http://freebsd48.googlepages.com/german_HFK.pdf
http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/London_Meeting/UAV_trends_Tsach_part1.pdf
http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/Eilat_Meeting/HALE_UAV_Yaniv.pdf
 

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Interestingly enough: http://www.dtic.mil/descriptivesum/Y2000/MDA/stamped/PE0603870C.pdf

A. Mission Description and Budget Item Justification
The Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV)- Boost Phase Intercept (BPI) project covers two tasks; Task 1 Israeli Boost Phase Intercept System (IBIS) Risk Mitigation, and
Task 2 : cooperative UAV-Based BPI Concepts. Task 1 is a cooperative U.S./Government of Israel (GOI) BPI program which involves development and refinement (risk
mitigation) of the UAV based BPI concept which destroys tactical ballistic missiles in the boost phase of flight, before engine cutoff, preferably while in enemy territory.
This project is based on the use of UAVs armed with onboard interceptors to provide the means of destroying enemy missiles in their boosting phase of flight. Task 1
efforts are performed in Israel and focus on key elements of the Israeli Boost Phase Intercept System (IBIS) concept. Task 2 of this cooperative effort is performed in the
U.S. and will support and expand key elements of the IBIS concept. It includes developing the UAV-based BPI system requirements for scenarios of operation and
employment in support of U.S. expeditionary forces. The requirements will address development of search and track sensors, Battle Management, Command, Control,
Communications, Computers and Intelligence (BMC4I) and a Concept of Operations (CONOPS) based on readily available U.S. technologies. Task 2 will leverage
Service capabilities by addressing issues outlined in the Technical Operations (TO) Technology Master Plan (TMP).

Along with attack operations, the BPI concept is a means of destroying hostile ballistic missiles over enemy territory. UAVs armed with interceptors show significant near
term promise. Previous cooperative investigations of the UAV-based BPI concept and the recent Air Force Airborne Laser (ABL) analysis of Alternatives (AoA) study
(May 97) concluded that such a BPI system could be very cost effective and complementary to terminal missile defense systems.

This program is a “hedge” risk mitigation effort for the ABL program and can provide complementary support to ABL. The program uses cooperative activities in the
U.S. and Israel to mitigate risk of developing UAV-based BPI systems. The GOI is lead on risk mitigation of the platform (HA 10) and interceptor while the U.S. is lead
on the Infrared Search and Track (IRST) activities. The Battle Management and Control (BMC) and system engineering and integration responsibilities are shared. The
U.S. and GOI will share costs on a 75/25% ratio for Task 1.
Task 2 is being accomplished by BMDO/Service Integrated Product Teams (IPT) with additional support provided by Industry.

EDIT: Drats. Didn't realise that Mr London had already gotten it from a different source.
 

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