How SEA countries can counter China in the South China Sea: Equipment and Strategies - DISCUSSION

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How can Southeast Asian countries effectively counter China's growing influence and military presence in the SCS?

Regarding Sea, Land and Air, what equipment? And how much?
 
How Mexico could counter USA?
It’s more of a "How can SEA countries say f*ck off to the CCG when it goes in their EEZs" type post. But since PRC has been building multiple artificial islands to further strength their 9-dash-line claims, I decided to make it not only naval-wise.

Also, Indonesia getting Khan SRBMs, Philippines finally deciding to get actual fighter jets, and so on of this trend of SEA nations deciding to invest a lot in defense.

I perfectly know that the PLA would have the upper hand in every aspect.
 
Chinese fishing boats escorted by the CCG have been happening for a while, and in the last few years we’ve seen a general trend of SEA governments deciding to prioritize defense capabilities.
 
I will express my opinion before the discussion turns to politics, and the long-suffering moderators are forced to close the thread.

If Asian countries are really interested in "containing" China's expansion so as not to suffer the fate of Hong Kong's citizens, their only chance is to use the economic weapon. Any attempt to form some kind of military alliance will not work, the United States has already shown in Vietnam, Iran and Afghanistan that it is not a reliable ally.

China's weaknesses are the financial situation of its banks, exposed to the failure of a poorly planned real estate policy, the supply of hydrocarbons, the mobility of its merchant fleet and the operation of its logistics bases located in foreign ports, a machinery that is very sensitive to delays due to external causes.

A global campaign against Chinese goods and services could be devastating to its production and export system, with a good chance of creating the implosion of the entire economic structure.

I do not consider myself qualified to advise the most appropriate tactics to achieve these objectives, but perhaps the memory of the enormous losses suffered by humanity due to the virus, may move some countries to initiate a series of compensation claims. That would be a good start, but I wouldn't expect any help from the USA, in this kind of struggle for freedom it would be a group of sardines devouring a shark.

A confrontation of wills, rather than weapons.
 
ah shxt, here we go again....
I see you launching these baffling political sermons on every South China Sea thread.

But back on topic: Maybe focus on Vietnam's actual moves over the years? They've reclaimed islands, built fortifications, and bought Russian subs plus anti-ship/air missiles — all to boost their bargaining chips.
Truth is, Southeast Asian states have thrown almost everything they want at this — not to shift the balance, but to push boundaries little further and further for grabbing resources.
Military confrontation never be the real goal.
Vietnam tried that playbook once too, by the way... didn't end well.
 
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