Heathrow's third runway may finally come to fruition

My thoughts too martinbayer, how will they expand that from the rest of the terminals. But another thing that could kill the third runway before it even gets built is the small matter of the London Mayor who is strongly against it which is rather stupid by my thinking sooner or later it will have to be built regardless of the situation.
 
A third runway is an obvious decision and has been one for a long time now but I have doubts it will ever happen. Given how difficult this would be I wonder if money would be better spent connecting the other London airports to better public transport and therefore make them more appealing for both airlines and passengers.
 
None of the existing London airports is suitable for expansion given the population density in the South East of England.
Any other European country would have built a brand new airport somewhere on the Thames Estuary or East Coast with high speed rail links to Liverpool Street.
But as even Gormenghast has better infrastructure than Britain we are in the land of dreams.
 
FighterJock said:
And that is where the problems lie publiusr, the holding patterns. Until the third runway gets built these problems will continue.
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I don't think holding patterns are anywhere near the issue in the UK that they used to be. I have flown in and out of LHR for many years and it has been maybe ten years since I last sat in a holding pattern for more than 10.minutes. No aircraft takes off for the UK now without a confirmed landing time and, aside from the odd issue, typically goes straight in to land. Can remember some flights to LHR circling in the stack for 45 minutes but have not done that for ages...
 
Kiltonge said:
Third *parallel* runway.

The irony being that it's pretty much where runways 7 through 9 were planned to be built on the north side in the 1950s.
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There was a report, in Latin, where is written that the Roman Empire had already planned to enlarge the Londinium Airport back in 1st Century.....
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6yz77nlw4o
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ORIGINAL CAPTION: An artist's impression showing three runways at Heathrow Airport

The plans come a day after the deadline set by the government for parties to submit proposals.

Heathrow's plans, which it estimates would be completed within a decade, include:

  • Creation of a third runway, called the "North-Western Runway", which would be up to 3,500m (11,500 ft) long. Heathrow bosses say this will increase capacity to 756,000 flights and 150m passengers a year - it currently serves about 84m
  • A new terminal called T5X, expanding Terminal 2 and three new satellite terminals. It would close Terminal 3
  • Enhancement of local rail connections, plus walking and cycling routes
  • Diversion of the M25, which would involve a new road tunnel under the airport, and widening the motorway between junctions 14-15
  • Creation of two new Heathrow parkways
  • Improvements to Heathrow's bus and coach stations
Heathrow said it would cost £21bn to build the third runway, which includes procuring the land, changing the M25 and other associated infrastructure costs while building the new terminal would be £12bn and modernising the current airport's infrastructure £15bn. Due to rounding, it will total £49bn.

A spokesperson added the plans would grow the UK economy by 0.43% GDP.
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Just as long as they do not go over that projected total amount for the necessary improvements for the third runway Grey Havoc.
 
No, no, and no.

Enough foot dragging as it is. We all know jets linger in the air longer the fewer runways there are. That burns fuel.

This is a MacDoug level poison pill.

In terms of climate and all things atmospheric, I just got through watching the (LIVE) Monday night "Weatherbrains," where a guest related travel woes that sounded like something from the movie "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles."

"Air Lingus" or something.

On top of that, the public access level feed cut him off and everyone laughed--and when James Spann caught himself speaking over the "this week in tornado history."

Long story made short (too late, I know)--the point is that atmospheric conditions aren't the only example of the butterfly effect. Lack of that extra runway is going to back propagate and make bad conditions worse. Adam Conover tried to attack extra lanes on roads by saying they'd get filled too. As an example, he said that if you had more pockets in your jacket--you'd fill them. That's the point. As for how many pockets I have--that's my business, not his.

Folks oppose that extra runway under the false impression that not having it will somehow put the CO2 toothpaste back in the tube...debunked by the mere existence of holding patterns.
 
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