Hawker Siddeley Postwar CTOL projects

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I can just attach the HS.136, although in AIR PICTORIAL 11/98, as well as
in Payne "Stuck on the drawing board" it is shown as some kind of "mini
Airbus A300", with wing mounted engines.
 

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Thanks my dear Jemiba,

Hawker HS.132 was 164 passenger airliner project and HS.134 was
210 passenger airliner project.
 

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Hi,

Does anyone know the Hawker airborne early warning AEW project
HS.6166 which was powered by two turbofans ?.
 

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I don't think HS.6166 is the correct designation.

NAST.6166 in 1962 for a joint RAF/RN AEW aircraft led to the Blackburn P.39. NAST 6166 was replaced by ASR.387 for a new AEW system for the RAF.

Hawker offered a design, an Avro Andover with FMICW randomes at nose and tail and powered by two RR Trents. I'm asuming these were the RB.207 Trent of the mid 1960s before RR had its troubles in the early 1970s. This is the design I think your referring to.
 

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Hi,

What was that project for Hawker ?.
 

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Reference from Flight please.... ;D
 

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The two engined jetliner should be the HS.136.

It was one of the many feederliner projects to emerge from the
Hatfield design office as a DC-3 replacement.
It was dropped in favour of the HS.144.
 

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Thank you my dear lark,

but what was the HS.144 ?.
 

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It was a project for a twin engined feeder liner with two RR RB.203,
mounted at the tail.
 

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Thank you my dear Jemiba.
 

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My dear Jemiba,

please,can you tell us if there was existed of anther two projects
for Hawker called HS.142 and HS.143 or not ?.
 

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Yes, there were !
The HS.142 and 143 were short- and long range versions of the A300B,
although at the time they were drawn up, HS no longer belonged to
the Airbus consortium.
(Info from R.Payne "Stuck o the drawing board")
 

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Hi,

does anyone know Hawker HS.135?,which was appeared here;
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1969/1969%20-%202951.html?search=hawker%20HS.135%20aircraft
 

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hesham said:
Thanks my dear Jemiba,

Hawker HS.132 was 164 passenger airliner project and HS.134 was
210 passenger airliner project.
the Hawker HS.134.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1979/1979%20-%202951.html?search=future%20aircraft%20project%201940
 

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Hi,

Hawker HS.144.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1970/1970%20-%201922.html
 

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Looks like a HS.144 to me.

See attached, HS.136 on the left, HS.144 on the right.

Chris
 

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Very nice drawings Chris.
 

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From Air Enthusiast,

the HS.132 and HS.134 Airliner Projects.
 

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From the BAe Hatfield Future Projects Newsletter No.23, March 1988

Unbuilt 1975 design from HSA Hatfield for the third stage of the Noise Shielded Demonstrator tests. The initial tests used first an HS125 and later the sole Miles Student fitted with a noise shielding device. The design utilised the nose of a Gnat with 2x JT15D-4 engines.

Apologies for the quality but the originals are quite low resolution photocopies...

Zeb
 

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waw nice find, reminds me somewhat of the CMC Leopard, esp in derived trainer proposal form (manufacturers display model, Midland Air Museum, Coventry)
 

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Ian Chichester Miles was a project designer at Hatfield in the 1970s so it is likely he was involved. Other small biz jet proposals from that team look like the Leopard.
 

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Nice find my dear Zebedee.
 

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Joe, Harrier, that was my first thought when I saw some this and some of the other projects in the stash. There's 20 copies in all so its going to take a while to scan and collate everything...

Zeb
 
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