Future NATO artillery

[uk 75]

Ukraine has been receiving the whole palette of NATO artillery from the UK 105mn light gun to German 155mm PZH2000.
The diversity of NATO artillery had been reduced to some extent by moving away from 105mm and 203mm weapons to mainly 155mm.
However, most major NATO members still design and make their own systems.
The development of successor systems is already underway. During the Cold War NATO members mainly used the M109. Could a new weapon system achieve the same commonality?

 

[Fluff]

Current orders seem to be split between K9, tracked ‘traditional’ or the shoot and scoot archer or boxer. You pays your money…….

 

[jsport]

View: https://youtu.be/-Qzu6TbCgl0

 

[jsport]

View: https://youtu.be/oLp6Vp6OgoM?si=Ak6NeJ4785edCswy

 

[jsport]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/XBv3q8SxW90

 

[zen]

Probably not because diversity avoids a single system flaw or weakness crippling everyone.

UK may have abandoned heavy artillery design, but Swedes, French, Germans, Slovaks have all developed designs and Poland straight lifted the last UK 155 system, Braveheart, to step into modern design and production.

Since they're all supposed to use compatible 155mm rounds, the question is why should they all follow the same design?

Pressure limits likey set at L60 for bagged if that, and something clever for using fixed case rounds for upto L70.

Might even be an argument to resurrect 203mm, considering modern ammunition developments.

 

[Seragina]

We got rid of 203 mm, 175 mm for the sake of mobility afforded by more range due to technology in the 70's with the NATO FH70 standard. We got rid of 105 mm, too. Now we need even more mobility. And that's why 105 mm is being reintroduced.
As technology progresses 105 mm might become the new mass artillery. Though, heavy 155 mm pounding probabaly won't go away.

 

[Combat-Master]

"Another initiative includes the development of a prototype for a generic NATO 155-millimeter munition, which is complemented by a new NSPA contract to procure even more of this important caliber."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2074409905327350108

View: https://x.com/clashreport/status/2074409905327350108?s=20


Not sure what this entails, aren't munitions already standardised within NATO ?

 

[Arjen]

aren't munitions already standardised within NATO ?

The beauty of standards is that there are so many of them, there is always one that perfectly suits you.

 

[jsport]

"Another initiative includes the development of a prototype for a generic NATO 155-millimeter munition, which is complemented by a new NSPA contract to procure even more of this important caliber."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2074409905327350108

View: https://x.com/clashreport/status/2074409905327350108?s=20


Not sure what this entails, aren't munitions already standardised within NATO ?

Others can comment better, but understand standardization is scant

 

[Apophenia]

...
Not sure what this entails, aren't munitions already standardised within NATO ?

As @zen said back in May, barrel length differences can affect shell compatibility. Ditto for proprietary RAP shells.

The Generic NATO Indirect Fire Round (GENIFR) project (HVP) is meant to "set up the parameters for a future fully interchangeable, interoperable NATO 155mm munition." I presume that, for the GENIFR project, 'munition', refers to the complete 155 mm round (as opposed to just the shell).

 

[jsport]

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/...-advances-plans-155m-wheeled-artillery-fleet/