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Great 10 minute History Channel documentary on Charles H. Zimmerman and HR aircraft (V-173 and XF5U).

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V-162B in the model designation and listed as X-1800 Attack Bomber
in the drawing title block. From Vought Archives
 

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Bill S said:
V-162B in the model designation and listed as X-1800 Attack Bomber
in the drawing title block

You're a hero! Any information on other vital statistics of the X-1800?
 

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saturncanuck said:
Too bad she never flew...

What do you mean, she didn't fly? This design is earlier than the V-173 "Flying Pancake", which flew, and several times too! Even Charles Lindbergh piloted it.

The aircraft that didn't fly was the XF5U-1, an altogether pretty different and more advanced aircraft (don't have my files with me but that was in the VS-300 range of designations).
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
saturncanuck said:
Too bad she never flew...

What do you mean, she didn't fly? This design is earlier than the V-173 "Flying Pancake", which flew, and several times too! Even Charles Lindbergh piloted it.

The aircraft that didn't fly was the XF5U-1, an altogether pretty different and more advanced aircraft (don't have my files with me but that was in the VS-300 range of designations).

Obviously, THAT's what I was talking about.

The V-173 was only a proof-of-concept, but the REAL aircraft, the XF5U-1, never lfew. Incidently, the structure was so well-built that when they scrapped her they had to use wrecking balls!
 

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Slightly ATL: Re: Flying Flapjack

Is there any plausible way such STOL could have been available for 'Battle of Atlantic' instead of those disposable catapulted hurricanes & spitfires ?

STOL might have 'landed back on a hatch-cover'...

Uh, the comments from U-boat skippers and Condor pilots would be unprintable...
 

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Sorry no further info on the X-1800 at the moment.
Will post them if I find any.
 

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This time I have three views of the V-172 to add for
your viewing pleasure. From Vought Archives
 

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Sorry no further info on the X-1800 at the moment.
Will post them if I find any.

Sorry it's Wiki, here's a reference :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_X-1800

I have something in one of my books, but, it's late, I'm tired,
and my scanner's off. Will sort it out tomorrow,


cheers,
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robunos said:
Sorry no further info on the X-1800 at the moment.
Will post them if I find any.

Sorry it's Wiki, here's a reference :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_X-1800

That's the X-1800 the Pratt & Whitney engine... This the X-1800 the Vought/Zimmermann low aspect ratio bomber...
 

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Some additional info -Post-1
From
-Aviation History-September 1997
-Flaps magazine unknown issue
-Le Fanatique de l'Aviation unknown isssue
-Air&Space april/may 2004
-"Naval Fighters"- number twenty one
-"Air enthusiast"-june 1973
-Aeroplane montly-september 1975
 

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Some additional info -Post-2
From
-Aviation History-September 1997
-Flaps magazine unknown issue
-Le Fanatique de l'Aviation unknown isssue
-Air&Space april/may 2004
-"Naval Fighters"- number twenty one
-"Air enthusiast"-june 1973
-Aeroplane montly-september 1975
 

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Some additional info -Post-3
From
-Aviation History-September 1997
-Flaps magazine unknown issue
-Le Fanatique de l'Aviation unknown isssue
-Air&Space april/may 2004
-"Naval Fighters"- number twenty one
-"Air enthusiast"-june 1973
-Aeroplane montly-september 1975
 

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That's the X-1800 the Pratt & Whitney engine... This the X-1800 the Vought/Zimmermann low aspect ratio bomber...

Oops...my bad...... :-[ :'(
Told you I was tired......


cheers,
Robin.
 

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Here is a short clip of Stu talking about his involvement in the restoration of the V-173 Pancake.
http://youtu.be/G4svtWctNb4
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Hi,


here is the early patent which led to develop the V-173,and and anther patent of 1947 ?.


Lotnictwo 8-2015
 

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The 1938 patent could be related to the built (but not flown) 1935 prototype, though there are a few notable differences:
 

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