European UGV/UGCVs (unmanned ground combat/vehicles)

Are you seriosuly sugesting its was sucessful but for some reason supplies in 3 years amounted to 15 units. Ukraine got anything it wanted paid and supplied , themis for some reason was not on the wishlist. You can speculate why ....

Now it seems ARX robotics is the new hotness, although its head honcho also said that when they delivered first units to Ukraine they were out of order in no time. and they spent considerable time in and out of Ukraine to make it a workable UGV ,Brits are now looking at licence manufacture.
 
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Mr.T said:
Are you seriosuly sugesting its was sucessful but for some reason supplies in 3 years amounted to 15 units. Ukraine got anything it wanted paid and supplied , themis for some reason was not on the wishlist. You can speculate why ....

Now it seems ARX robotics is the new hotness, although its head honcho also said that when they delivered first units to Ukraine they were out of order in no time. and they spent considerable time in and out of Ukraine to make it a workable UGV ,Brits are now looking at licence manufacture.
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I am not suggesting anything other than countering your claims and pointing out that you are now trying to change your claims to justify your position. Maybe you should do your homework before making such bold claims that were countered so easily.
 
New Ukrainian UGV:


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I find the lack of purpose built systems, developed by genuine arms manufacturers with proper R&D behind them in this thread disturbing.

Posting every haphazardly thrown together RC toy with a couple grenades or a rifle zip tied to it is...something I'd expect to see on a subreddit dedicated to garage projects. I think a famous gun content focused youtuber also strapped an MP5 to another off the shelf robotic quadruped, this is rather reminiscent of this.
 
Forest Green said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2003864355646148694
View: https://x.com/GrandpaRoy2/status/2003864355646148694?s=20
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If you ask me, the most inefficient part of the drone kill chain is that someone need to backpack the drone into front areas. This isn't a problem when it is bombing some rifleman, but in an drone war that vulnerability demands solution. The ability to increase sortie rates at the front is decisive.

Looking at the end result, it does appear to me that a more compact and stealthy design really should be attempted since there is no apparent ways to improve survivability otherwise.
 
shin_getter said:
Not sure if this should go here....

www.reuters.com

How Israel’s multi-ton truck bombs ripped through Gaza City

In the weeks before the ceasefire, Israel deployed a new weapon: Armoured Personnel Carriers repurposed as explosive-laden bombs.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Rather political, however it does show usage in more detail.
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It SEEMS like a well made article but all 3 videos of alleged UGV use actually show bombs.

Not all M113 UGVs used in Gaza were VBIEDs.
Some were used as UGVs proper, to patrol dangerous routes like the Philadelphi in the early days after its capture.
There one can see an RWS.

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The article also doesn't describe well how the explosive variant works.
First, they don't all explode. Some simply offload explosives and go back.
Second, an aluminium body isn't exactly ideal fragment material. So fragmentation isn't even an afterthought and the metal body can even mess with planning the demolition work.
And third, these are, after all, demolition workers. They go inside the building, not outside it. But they are correct that the goal is to collapse it.
 
“” previsouly seen in demining form with a rocket fired demolition charge now seems to be taking on supply role.
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