Effect of CA-23 entering service with the RAAF

[Caryina2642]

The CAC CA-23 has always interest me being as it is the only proposed indigenous fighter jet to almost enter service with the RAAF.
So i was wondering what would the effect be on the RAAF and the Australian Aerospace Industry if the CA-23 enters service.
The only thing i would change to the plane is an AI rader instead of the proposed Relay Radar System and 2x 30mm instead of the 4x 0.5 MG's

• When would the CA-23 enter service some time between 1954 - 1958?
• Obviously this would mean the CAC Sabre doesn't enter service, meaning the Vampires & Meteors probably have to solider on in front line service a little bit longer
• Would missiles be added to later variants?
• How long would it stay in service?
• Would Australia make an indigenous replacement or buy something from overseas?
• Would there be any exports sales. Eg RAF, RNZAF, RCAF, ect?
• What would the Jet be named after?

 

[TsrJoe]

CAC. CA.23 did NOT almost enter service, indeed it was seen as a failure by those who evaluated the design who deemed it as being a large subsonic design on par with the Javelin ! Ref. PRO./TNA. AVIA 54/759

being realistic ...

• The CA-23 would probably be unsuitable for RAAF. service requirements and a US. type such as the F.104 (or the EE. P.1B Lightning) would be ordered
• Regarding AAM. armament, the aircraft would need a suitable radar (a later design development did have radar and was intended for Firestreak (as trialled on modified RAAF. Sabre)
• The CAC.23 would probably not be suitable for export, the UK. deemed the design as dated and superseded by the generation of types then becoming available

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[Dilandu]

When would the CA-23 enter service some time between 1954 - 1958?

Close to 1960s, most likely. Let's not forget, by the time it was cancelled in 1953, it was still at rather early stage of development. There was quite a lot of research work done, but no prototypes was even ordered yet.

Assuming that works would continue, it would likely means prototype manufactured in 1955-1956, finalized design prepared by late 1950s, and introduction to service by 1961-1962 at best.

Obviously this would mean the CAC Sabre doesn't enter service, meaning the Vampires & Meteors probably have to solider on in front line service a little bit longer

No, it means some other fighter would be ordered as stopgap measure, because by late 1950s Vampires and Meteors would not be even considered a good joke.

Would missiles be added to later variants?

IR only, probably. One of the reason why CA-23 was cancelled was a failure to incorporate meaningful radar into its nosecone. So Sidewinders would likely be the best it could carry.

(theoretically possible that CAC would cooperate with Vough to put an AN/APQ-84 radar on production models; then it would be able to use SARH AIM-9C)

How long would it stay in service?

Likely not very long. It would be generally viewed as outdated machine from the beginning.

Would there be any exports sales. Eg RAF, RNZAF, RCAF, ect?

Doubt that VERY much. New Zealand might be interested, though, but only due to local supplier.