Competition of T-38

nugo

ACCESS: Secret
Joined
Feb 2, 2006
Messages
337
Reaction score
17
1) Northrop Model N-156TZ---YT-38 (Talon)
2) Lockheed Model CL-314. A study - apparently not overly detailed - for a two-seat trainer derivative of the F-104, done for the USAF. No other data. Dates from ca. 1955-1956.
3) ? Model ?
.......

What can we say about this?
 

Skybolt

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2006
Messages
2,295
Reaction score
212
The Lochkeed's model numebers involved were a few more. This afternoon...
 

Skybolt

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2006
Messages
2,295
Reaction score
212
Lockheed tendered to the competition for a supersonic trainer a series of designs derived from the F-104 in little or more-than little radical ways. First is the above mentioned and already posted here CL-314 http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1965.msg53387.html#msg53387.
From early 1957 are the next two designs. CL-342 was a miimum supersonic trainer with a Mach 1.5 maximum speed, powered by two J-85s. The contemporray CL-343 had a speed reduced to Mach 1.0 due the lone Westinghouse J-54 powering it.The fuselage of the F-104 was more deeply modified. There were two iterations of this design, but the two differed in minor details.
From mid-1957 is finally the CL-360, defined an "optimum two-place supersonic trainer". The engine is unspecified but described as having the power of two J-85s.
 

Attachments

  • CL-342-1.gif
    CL-342-1.gif
    57.9 KB · Views: 310
  • CL-343-2.gif
    CL-343-2.gif
    54.9 KB · Views: 308
  • CL-360-1.gif
    CL-360-1.gif
    70.5 KB · Views: 315

nugo

ACCESS: Secret
Joined
Feb 2, 2006
Messages
337
Reaction score
17
Hi Skybolt!

Thank you very much. Very good, but I am talking about the competition SS-420L/TZ/Northrop T-38.These projects (CL-342,-343,-360) were created later SS-420L. I think of these projects, only the CL-314, was involved in this competition.
 

Skybolt

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2006
Messages
2,295
Reaction score
212
mmm, maybe yes, maybe no. The TDNs were assigned to studies under contract from USAF. Maybe they weren't all that sure of their choice.
 

Similar threads

Top