Chinese ship ramming on the SCS

southwestforests said:
Wasn't there some 1980s pop star who had a song named something like Karma Collision?

Will be interesting to see what Sal Mercogliano may have to say about this on his Ship Happens segment.
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Karma Chameleon.

The band was Culture Club; the lead singer was the irrepressible and (at the time) extremely eyebrow-raising Boy George.

Although their other big hit would be just as relevant here: "Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to make me cry?"
 
I have heard it said that evil's biggest enemy is laughter.

WW I was so dismal people thought it and the perception of trench warfare would end widespread conflict. WW II proved otherwise.

Drones being downed by scissors you would find in kindergarten...ships of the same nation in traffic accidents...tractors towing tanks off...insipid border conflicts in Asia.

Protestors, activists--even soldiers bucking their superiors to celebrate Christmas-nothing so far seems to have worked.

But generals are facing perhaps the one foe they can't overcome:

Mean girls on the Internet and their ilk laughing them to scorn.

The toxic nature of social media may wind up being the pacifist 's best friend.

A toast!

To more bumper cars and military assets smaller than some R/C toys...
 
publiusr said:
I have heard it said that evil's biggest enemy is laughter.

WW I was so dismal people thought it and the perception of trench warfare would end widespread conflict. WW II proved otherwise.

Drones being downed by scissors you would find in kindergarten...ships of the same nation in traffic accidents...tractors towing tanks off...insipid border conflicts in Asia.

Protestors, activists--even soldiers bucking their superiors to celebrate Christmas-nothing so far seems to have worked.

But generals are facing perhaps the one foe they can't overcome:

Mean girls on the Internet and their ilk laughing them to scorn.

The toxic nature of social media may wind up being the pacifist 's best friend.

A toast!

To more bumper cars and military assets smaller than some R/C toys...
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Something always happens in the China Sea when public opinion begins to take an interest in other scenarios. Jokingly, I believe that in China there is a ministry exclusively dedicated to maintaining tension. To paraphrase Frankenstein's monster: "When I realized that I could not find sympathy among people, I decided to inspire fear."
 

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interesting pics from this Korean site
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looks like the Philippine Navy crew received medals
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publiusr said:
Tunnel vision on the part of the helmsmen?

Failure to merge properly:)
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Tunnel vision, yes, but not on the part of the helmsman.

Tunnel vision on the part of the Officer of the Deck.



publiusr said:
If the Philippine skipper deliberately baited them into a collision--the medals are warranted.
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Absolutely!
 
NMaude said:
I imagine that after giving itself a "Nose job" that cutter will be in refit for a long time to rebuild a new bow after the mangled remnants of its' current bow have been cut away.
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I would not expect so. They're only replacing what, 5m worth of minimally-stressed structure. Couple months, tops, and most of that is the damage survey to see what if anything else got messed up. 2-3 weeks for the actual work to repair the visible damage, maybe less.
 
Scott Kenny said:
I would not expect so. They're only replacing what, 5m worth of minimally-stressed structure. Couple months, tops, and most of that is the damage survey to see what if anything else got messed up. 2-3 weeks for the actual work to repair the visible damage, maybe less.
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That'll buff right out...
 
martinbayer said:
That'll buff right out...
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Well, if we compare that to the damage suffered by USS Wisconsin in 1956, it took the USN 16 days to remove&replace a 120ton, 68ft long chunk of bow, that they chopped off of the BB-65 Kentucky as a single piece.

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I think this is comparable because the bow of a US battleship was unarmored, strictly just thick enough to survive the seas.

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As a side note, this collision probably puts the rumors of "Chinese coast guard ships being armored specifically to do bumper boats" to rest.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Well, if we compare that to the damage suffered by USS Wisconsin in 1956, it took the USN 16 days to remove&replace a 120ton, 68ft long chunk of bow, that they chopped off of the BB-65 Kentucky as a single piece.

USS_Wisconson_collision.jpg

(img source: Wikipedia)

I think this is comparable because the bow of a US battleship was unarmored, strictly just thick enough to survive the seas.

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As a side note, this collision probably puts the rumors of "Chinese coast guard ships being armored specifically to do bumper boats" to rest.
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As long as you know where your next reputable body shop is and how to get there...
 
More like what plowed into the Andrea Doria:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shipwrecks/comments/1ep38lx/andrea_doria_discussion

Stockholm had the same type of bow damage.

One ship went right-to-right, the other left-to-left, and the result was the nautical equivalent of two drivers in an otherwise empty parking lot still finding a way to back into one another.

Psychologists also refer to victims who sympathize with kidnappers as having “Stockholm syndrome.”

My lame brain was channeling Dennis Miller.
 
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