Boeing F-47 NGAD - Speculation and Theories

[barry bozo]

(And all the other supporting bits, like CAD draftsmen etc)

Small unimportant note - modern programs no longer have "drafting" groups anymore. New programs don't even use physical or digital drawings, but rather all drawing notations, tolerances, PMI, etc. are all placed on the model itself in 3D. This is all done by the same engineers/designers that make the parts in CAD. Its easier for all parties involved, including the machinists who actually have to make the parts.

To your point, yes Boeing will be stretched thin in personnel. You can probably assume they're already planning/executing recruiting campaigns in Melbourne, Palmdale, and other locations of NG/LM to try and increase the engineer base instead of hiring within.

 

[Hydroman]

Finally, a manned CCA from VW!

 

[xray]

Canopy cracking happened while sitting inside a crate in a warehouse according to Paul Metz in this book.

Interesting tidbit
Is there any chance I could get an electronic copy of this book?

 

[Scott Kenny]

Small unimportant note - modern programs no longer have "drafting" groups anymore. New programs don't even use physical or digital drawings, but rather all drawing notations, tolerances, PMI, etc. are all placed on the model itself in 3D. This is all done by the same engineers/designers that make the parts in CAD. Its easier for all parties involved, including the machinists who actually have to make the parts.

I mean, it is really good that that is the case now.

Wasn't back when I was dealing with McBoing.

To your point, yes Boeing will be stretched thin in personnel. You can probably assume they're already planning/executing recruiting campaigns in Melbourne, Palmdale, and other locations of NG/LM to try and increase the engineer base instead of hiring within.

And I would expect at least a few people to be laid off from both NG and LM since they lost FAXX and NGAD to Boeing this round.

 

[barry bozo]

And I would expect at least a few people to be laid off from both NG and LM since they lost FAXX and NGAD to Boeing this round.

Definitely a possibility, but generally I think all three companies are generally pretty good at finding places for people when a program is lost. Might take 6-12 months to fully place people in permanent spots, but they'll do whatever it takes to retain talent. But without a doubt many from both will be looking at going to Boeing.

When Boeing-LM lost LRSB, Boeing was able to find spots for all the personnel that were on the program, as far as I was told.

 

[Training_Dummy]

I don’t want to go into speculation of red flag manipulation of aerospace related unions in certain states that are home to critical NATSEC manufacturing assets, but Boeing really needs to get its house in order in terms of labor relations, comp, HR, etc. strikes over the past few years are disconcerting and some derailed program timelines.

 

[Scott Kenny]

I don’t want to go into speculation of red flag manipulation of aerospace related unions in certain states that are home to critical NATSEC manufacturing assets, but Boeing really needs to get its house in order in terms of labor relations, comp, HR, etc. strikes over the past few years are disconcerting and some derailed program timelines.

Back when it was the Boeing employees union instead of the International Association of Machinists, the strikes derailing contracts happened every time production timelines were slipping and penalty clauses were about to kick in.

An observation of facts, not an unsupported statement that Boeing corporate pushed any given bargaining unit into striking to allow Corporate to claim force-majeure on delivery to avoid penalties.

 

[Sferrin]

Interesting tidbit
Is there any chance I could get an electronic copy of this book?

I wish. Asking for copies of books here is not likely to be received well.

 

[quellish]

https://www.darpa.mil/research/programs/converged-collaborative-elements-for-rf-task-operations

Interesting how they used the X-36 as an example here.