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This thread is dedicated to the AMX and its various projects, prototypes and unproduced variants.
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Alenia-Aermacchi-Embraer AMX.
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Distribution of work on the AMX programme. The AMX programme work was distributed as follows :
EMBRAER carried out 29.7% of the work (wing, air intakes, pylons and ATB);
Aeritalia - 46.7% (central part of the fuselage, tailplane);
Aermacchi - 23.6% (nose and tail parts of the fuselage).
EMBRAER carried out 29.7% of the work (wing, air intakes, pylons and ATB);
Aeritalia - 46.7% (central part of the fuselage, tailplane);
Aermacchi - 23.6% (nose and tail parts of the fuselage).
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Informations on the AMX-N naval fighter project destined to serve on the Minas Gerais are fairly scarce, sadly.
If anyone has any drawings, plans or more, that would be great.
If anyone has any drawings, plans or more, that would be great.
O AMX Naval - Poder Naval
Em maio de 1982, respondendo a perguntas de jornalistas sobre o reaparelhamento das Forças Armadas, o então ministro da Marinha, almirante de esquadra Maximiano da Fonseca, defendeu a produção de aviões no Brasil e disse que o AMX deveria “ser adaptado, no futuro, para operar em porta-aviões”.
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AMX naval - mito ou desejo real? - Poder Aéreo – Aviação, Forças Aéreas, Indústria Aeroespacial e de Defesa
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See also my Post in thread 'Competitors to the Gripen?' from 2016.
Originel source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ej200-engine-proposed-for-amx-50094/
Link: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/competitors-to-the-gripen.27776/post-287836
Originel source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ej200-engine-proposed-for-amx-50094/
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Somewhere in this forum are CGIs, showing a modified AMX with conformal pods for electronic warfare. Just like the EA-6B Prowler or like EA-18G Growler. Unfortunately I haven't found these pictures or the thread so far.
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EJ200 engine proposed for AMX
14 April 1999 / Guy Norris / MUNICHAMX International is studying the re-engining of the AMX combat aircraft with a non-afterburning version of the Eurojet EJ200.
A decision is expected as early as June and, if sanctioned, could lead to the development of a flight demonstration aircraft in 2000. AMX International, an Italian-Brazilian joint venture set up by Alenia, Aermacchi and Embraer, is thought to be evaluating the more powerful engine as a way to revive market interest in the aircraft. The company is looking to enhance the air-to-ground capability of the AMX and to develop variants such as the AMX-E electronic warfare version.
The AMX, in service with Brazil and Italy, is powered by an 11,000lb (49kN)-thrust Rolls-Royce Spey Mk 807, built under licence in Italy by FiatAvio, Piaggio and Alfa Romeo Avio, in association with Companhia Eletro-Mechanica in Brazil. The proposed new powerplant would generate around 13,500lb (60kN) thrust, and, with a fan diameter of 0.74m (29in), would fit into the AMX without the need for any significant installation changes, says Eurojet.
"The AMX is a strong possibility, and the EJ200 would do a lot for that aircraft," says Eurojet managing director Ken Greenall. "They could fly it next year, and they'd certainly like to get a flying demonstrator by then if they can get some funding," he adds. "The EJ200 would transform the AMX and make it into a really good air-to-ground platform."
"We are in ongoing talks over the design" adds Paul Herrmann, manager for weapons systems integration for Eurojet, which is developing the EJ200 initially for the Eurofighter Typhoon. In afterburning mode for the Eurofighter, the EJ200 generates more than 20,000lb thrust. This version is also being proposed for the Saab/ BAe Gripen, and as a re-engining candidate for older Boeing F/A-18s, Mikoyan MiG-29s and even the Panavia Tornado.
The AMX re-engining concept is believed to be gaining strong support in Italy, and particularly from FiatAvio which is already a partner in Eurojet.
FiatAvio is responsible for the engine's low pressure turbine and shaft, gearbox, air/oil system and interstage support. The Italian company is also responsible for the reheat system, which would be deleted from the AMX version. Other EJ200 partners are ITP of Spain, MTU of Germany and Rolls-Royce of the UK.
• Eurojet has delivered 26 prototype EJ200s and has amassed 930 flight hours on seven Eurofighter prototypes. The flight test programme has so far enlarged the envelope to 42,000ft (12,800m) and speeds between 135kt (250km/h) and Mach 2.
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Nose arrangements - Italian had M61 Vulcan cannon, Brazilian had 2 DEFA 554 cannon.
Trainer version:
Both models fitted the Elta EL/M-2001B*, but in the early 2000s Brazil developed an upgrade (delivered from 2012 on) using the Tectelcom SCP/01** radar.
In 1999 Venezuela bought 8 advanced trainer/attack versions, with the Elta EL/M-203^ radar.
* a small, dual-mode pulse-Doppler radar with air-to-air and air-to-ground ranging capability.
** air-air search & tracking, ship tracking, ground distance, and ground-mapping modes.
^ a multi-mode radar for anti-air and anti-ship capability.
Trainer version:
Both models fitted the Elta EL/M-2001B*, but in the early 2000s Brazil developed an upgrade (delivered from 2012 on) using the Tectelcom SCP/01** radar.
In 1999 Venezuela bought 8 advanced trainer/attack versions, with the Elta EL/M-203^ radar.
* a small, dual-mode pulse-Doppler radar with air-to-air and air-to-ground ranging capability.
** air-air search & tracking, ship tracking, ground distance, and ground-mapping modes.
^ a multi-mode radar for anti-air and anti-ship capability.
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It is necessary to specify that the US Congress vetoed the sale because the aircraft systems include US technology and the aircrafts have never been delivered.
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Venezuela selects MB-339FD and AMX ATA combination
Andrea Spinelli / GENOA / 15 July 1998
Venezuela has chosen a mix of the Aermacchi MB339FD jet trainer and the new ATA version of the Alenia-Aermacchi-Embraer AMX trainer/attack aircraft to meet its advanced jet trainer and light strike fighter requirements. The purchase of the AMX will be the first export order for the aircraft.
The MB339FD will replace the Venezuelan air force's obsolete Rockwell T-2D Buckeye aircraft used for training. The decision to select the Italian aircraft opens the way for detailed contractual negotiations to begin, and a contract signature is expected by the first quarter of 1999.
Some $110 million has been allocated for the programme in Venezuela's 1998 budget, with $300-400 million expected to be earmarked for procurement in the following two years.
The air force intends to order eight MB-339FDs initially, with deliveries beginning in the first quarter of 2000. Between 20 and 40 aircraft - a mix of MB339FDs and two-seat AMXs - are expected to be procured.
In June, the Venezuelan air force chose the Aermacchi SF260E piston-engined trainer to replace its ageing Beech T-34 Mentor, with 12 aircraft to be delivered starting in 1999. Further options could see up to 18 more SF260s purchased.
The SF260E is the first step in a three-aircraft training philosophy that also includes the Embraer Tucano as an intermediate trainer before students can move up to a lead-in advanced jet trainer.
The MB339FD and the AMX will fulfil two roles - advanced training and light strike. The AMX is likely to be used mainly as a strike platform.
Israel's Elbit and Elta are emerging, respectively, as potential avionics and radar suppliers for the new ATA version of the AMX. This latest development of the AMX is based on the Italian air force Block 3 configuration, further updated with a full digital cockpit and upgraded avionics. The Venezuelan MB339FD has a similar configuration to the Italian air force's MB-339CD, apart from the Rolls-Royce Viper 680 engine.
Source: Flight International
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Andrea Spinelli / GENOA / 15 July 1998
Venezuela has chosen a mix of the Aermacchi MB339FD jet trainer and the new ATA version of the Alenia-Aermacchi-Embraer AMX trainer/attack aircraft to meet its advanced jet trainer and light strike fighter requirements. The purchase of the AMX will be the first export order for the aircraft.
The MB339FD will replace the Venezuelan air force's obsolete Rockwell T-2D Buckeye aircraft used for training. The decision to select the Italian aircraft opens the way for detailed contractual negotiations to begin, and a contract signature is expected by the first quarter of 1999.
Some $110 million has been allocated for the programme in Venezuela's 1998 budget, with $300-400 million expected to be earmarked for procurement in the following two years.
The air force intends to order eight MB-339FDs initially, with deliveries beginning in the first quarter of 2000. Between 20 and 40 aircraft - a mix of MB339FDs and two-seat AMXs - are expected to be procured.
In June, the Venezuelan air force chose the Aermacchi SF260E piston-engined trainer to replace its ageing Beech T-34 Mentor, with 12 aircraft to be delivered starting in 1999. Further options could see up to 18 more SF260s purchased.
The SF260E is the first step in a three-aircraft training philosophy that also includes the Embraer Tucano as an intermediate trainer before students can move up to a lead-in advanced jet trainer.
The MB339FD and the AMX will fulfil two roles - advanced training and light strike. The AMX is likely to be used mainly as a strike platform.
Israel's Elbit and Elta are emerging, respectively, as potential avionics and radar suppliers for the new ATA version of the AMX. This latest development of the AMX is based on the Italian air force Block 3 configuration, further updated with a full digital cockpit and upgraded avionics. The Venezuelan MB339FD has a similar configuration to the Italian air force's MB-339CD, apart from the Rolls-Royce Viper 680 engine.
Source: Flight International
Venezuela selects MB339FD and AMX ATA combination
Andrea Spinelli/GENOA Venezuela has chosen a mix of the Aermacchi MB339FD jet trainer and the new ATA version of the Alenia-Aermacchi-Embraer AMX trainer/attack aircraft to meet its advanced jet trainer and light strike fighter requirements. The purchase of the AMX will be the first export order...
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The date of what ?
Italian AMXs retired from service today after 35 years of service.
View: https://twitter.com/ItalianAirForce/status/1776196808835842318
View: https://twitter.com/ItalianAirForce/status/1776272781727957397
Sad to see them go. I aways liked that little, unassuming-looking airplane. It was never "sexy" compared to its supersonic contemporaries but it was an effective CAS platform and it performed well in combat over Kosovo, Afghanistan and Libya. I also remember reading that it had very good endurance despite its diminutive size. Farewell 'Ghibli'.
View: https://twitter.com/ItalianAirForce/status/1776196808835842318
View: https://twitter.com/ItalianAirForce/status/1776272781727957397
Sad to see them go. I aways liked that little, unassuming-looking airplane. It was never "sexy" compared to its supersonic contemporaries but it was an effective CAS platform and it performed well in combat over Kosovo, Afghanistan and Libya. I also remember reading that it had very good endurance despite its diminutive size. Farewell 'Ghibli'.
A good little jet with an interesting history. A pocket Tornado or a modern day Skyhawk. Sad to see it go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_International_AMX
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It is amazing how similar the two aircraft were. AMX truly reinvented the Skyhawk.
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It is amazing how similar the two aircraft were. AMX truly reinvented the Skyhawk.
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Italy Says Arrivederci To Its Little AMX Attack Jets
A joint venture between Italy and Brazil, the subsonic AMX attack jet was retired today by the Italian Air Force after 35 years of service.
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Appears Brazil’s AMX’s have another year of service (reportedly due to be retired in 2025).
Italy retires AMX light strike jet
The Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militaire Italiana: AMI) has retired its Aeritalia Macchi eXperimental (AMX) light attack aircraft after 35 years of service.
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Which aircraft will replace the A-11 in Brazil ?
More F-39 Gripen or A-29 Tucano ?
I thought the modernized A-11s were to be retired in 2032.
More F-39 Gripen or A-29 Tucano ?
I thought the modernized A-11s were to be retired in 2032.
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Gripen. There were plans for keeping the A-1(Brazilian designation of the AMX) in service until the 2030s, but they will be retired earlier(maybe 2025, maybe a bit later, IMO).
