Air Progress magazine artist Dion Shipboard Fighter proposal (1943)

[Dynoman]

I saw this on Ebay and was unfamiliar with the design.

 

[royabulgaf]

If Hesham doesn't know it..... It looks like a regular feature taken from a magazine of the 30s-40s. My guess it is a reader's submission page.

 

[Orionblamblam]

My guess it is a reader's submission page.

Concur.

 

[transformer8800]

Good drawing

 

[Antonio]

I'm thinking whether to send it to fake projects or to the bar sections

 

[Hood]

I think speculative section certainly - its a period speculation but speculative.
I'm presuming its a series in an American aviation magazine, probably late 1930s.

 

[CJGibson]

Here's the designer



Mind you the last time I mentioned him in a social media post, I got into a spot of bother.

Chris

 

[Orionblamblam]

This appears to originate in "Air Progress" magazine. And I bet it's the 1943-08 issue. The Table Of contents (on Archive.org) shows "Shipboard Fighters" on page 52-53, and "Avro Lancaster" on page 58-59.

The ebay in question:

Aircraft Diagram Shipbard Fighter Concept Magazine 1940s WW2 WWII Planes Ford? | eBay

The paper edges are to be considered brittle and show yellowing/foxing. You will only receive what is pictured and no extra pages etc. The pictures are of each side of a page, pages shown are double sided not individual single sided pages.

www.ebay.com

Aircraft Diagram Shipbard Fighter Concept Magazine 1940s WW2 WWII Planes Ford?​

 

[Orionblamblam]

Yup. "Air Progress."

 

[Silencer1]

I see in the 3-view several mistakes (IMHO):
1) forward view - circles of propellers' tips isn't coaxial. Side view and internal layout shows coaxial propellers placement.
2) wing spars layout is also qustionable. If rear spar is lacated behid pilot, how the forward one protrudes through cockpit?
3) too small internal volume for main undercarriage.

Despite all these isues of "artist's concept", this article is quite refreshing and curious. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Orionblamblam]

The art is good. The engineering is terrible.

 

[hesham]

If Hesham doesn't know it..... It looks like a regular feature taken from a magazine of the 30s-40s. My guess it is a reader's submission page.

Hi Royabulgaf,

when I saw it,I thought it's a fantasy design,looks like,

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/fighter-designs-with-central-propeller.3303/

 

[archipeppe]

Such Dion design is a scrap, but the Lancaster's cutaway is simply gorgeous.

 

[Silencer1]

Such Dion design is a scap, but the Lancaster's cutaway is simply gorgeous.

In my humble opinion, the Dion's concept isn't as bad, despite it's obviously not a real engineering.
At that decade there were several projetcs with propellers, located at the mid-fuselage.

For example - Martin 262 convoy fighter

 

[Dynoman]

Yup. "Air Progress."

Thank you! The Ebay page I looked at did not have the second page of the first drawing, which indicated that it was artwork and not a conceptual project design.

 

[Orionblamblam]

I got full (or at least far better) resolutions versions:

 

[JimK]

For admirers of John Clark's work: Here is a cleaner version of the Avro Lancaster B. Mk. I, originally from The Aeroplane.