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(Should AI be a separate topic?)
 
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Looks like Softbank is accelerating commercial sales objectives for Boston Dynamics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iV_hB08Uns
 

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A bit of background: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/03/boston-dynamics-latest-robot-is-a-mechanical-ostrich-that-loads-pallets/
 

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fredymac said:
Looks like Softbank is accelerating commercial sales objectives for Boston Dynamics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iV_hB08Uns
\I have the feeling Alphabet selling off BD will be looked back on in a few decades as one of those huge missed opportunities.
 

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I would have hoped we'd have been a little more intelligent than to let it be bought up by a foreign power.
 

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sferrin said:
I would have hoped we'd have been a little more intelligent than to let it be bought up by a foreign power.
Alpha/Google seems to be fairly bad at working on/maturing etc tech that doesn't directly tie into their internet/advertising business model.
 

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muttbutt said:
sferrin said:
I would have hoped we'd have been a little more intelligent than to let it be bought up by a foreign power.
Alpha/Google seems to be fairly bad at working on/maturing etc tech that doesn't directly tie into their internet/advertising business model.
I'm talking about the US allowing Japan to buy Boston Dynamics.
 

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sferrin said:
muttbutt said:
sferrin said:
I would have hoped we'd have been a little more intelligent than to let it be bought up by a foreign power.
Alpha/Google seems to be fairly bad at working on/maturing etc tech that doesn't directly tie into their internet/advertising business model.
I'm talking about the US allowing Japan to buy Boston Dynamics.
I know....just pointing out another company specific issue. :)
 

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https://twitter.com/EC_Theophile/status/1113003307927244800


Well that's not terrifying, someone (McClick in France) decided the replicators from Stargate SG-1 were something we needed in real life...sweet dreams techno-archnophobes :-\
 

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fredymac said:
Looks like Softbank is accelerating commercial sales objectives for Boston Dynamics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iV_hB08Uns
Key point of Handle v2 is the all electric actuators, not electrohydraulic. seems they have finally caught to (or incorporated) the secret sauce behind the robotics company shaft, who were bought up by Google, then later dissolved when the members refused to be sold off to softbank (after seeing the mess softbank made of the french company aldeberaan and their Pepper robot).

Of note, the former members of shaft have resurfaced in a new startup called GITAI.
 

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Speaking of GITAI:
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/GITAI_signs_joint_robotic_research_agreement_with_JAXA_999.html
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/03/27/2030214/gitai-partners-with-jaxa-to-send-telepresence-robots-to-space
https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/space-robots/gitai-partners-with-jaxa-to-send-telepresence-robots-to-space
 

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Interesting little system for autonomous robots/uavs for sewer/underground inspections...wonder how much modding you;d need to militarise it.





https://siar.idmind.pt/
 

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Visions of robots past...



....with the exception of the Daleks & Cybermen of course.
 
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When somebody wins the Iditarod with these things you'll know robots have achieved full parity. Also, another sign of commercial scale production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnWolLQSZic
 

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Vintage 1980's documentary on robots. A young Marc Raibert of the MIT Leg Lab shows up at the 25:00 mark.

 

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"Hydrolic Pressure: 18 tons PSI" Sigh...
 

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The marketing department probably sold this idea by explaining how many replacement units they would get to build when drivers get ticketed by a deputized puppet.

 

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With those skinny arms, just don't order any candy if there are kids in your neighborhood.

 

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If they can make it go really fast, you could have dogs chase it at the race track.

 

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With those skinny arms, just don't order any candy if there are kids in your neighborhood.

Funny. But in the end i can help thinking … in the end if all these works are eventually done by fancy robots replacing humans, how will these humans earn money to buy/order things to be delivered by robots ?
Mmmmh… I know, every human will need to be an engineer able to design robots for a living.
 
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Before the industrial revolution, most people were occupied in growing food. After the industrial revolution, most people were occupied making things. If a robot/AI revolution removes making things and the ancillary jobs of distribution and servicing, there isn’t any obvious replacement.

With all this automation and AI, nothing seems to be getting cheaper. Cars, houses, stuff in general keep getting more expensive. The only exception is consumer electronics. You still need money to live.

Paying people to do nothing leads to people who are worth nothing and has failed where it has been tried. Earning your livelihood is key to self-respect and requires an economy with the full mix of jobs that allows everyone something they can do. Unless something shows up to create this economy, the robot/AI revolution will self-destruct against the reality that people without jobs can’t buy the stuff produced by it.
 

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Before the industrial revolution, most people were occupied in growing food. After the industrial revolution, most people were occupied making things. If a robot/AI revolution removes making things and the ancillary jobs of distribution and servicing, there isn’t any obvious replacement.

With all this automation and AI, nothing seems to be getting cheaper. Cars, houses, stuff in general keep getting more expensive. The only exception is consumer electronics. You still need money to live.

Paying people to do nothing leads to people who are worth nothing and has failed where it has been tried. Earning your livelihood is key to self-respect and requires an economy with the full mix of jobs that allows everyone something they can do. Unless something shows up to create this economy, the robot/AI revolution will self-destruct against the reality that people without jobs can’t buy the stuff produced by it.
Agree with all of that.
Specially how you see the population growing :
Anyways, i suppose these fancy delivering robots will be for niche markets.
 

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muttbutt said:
sferrin said:
I would have hoped we'd have been a little more intelligent than to let it be bought up by a foreign power.
Alpha/Google seems to be fairly bad at working on/maturing etc tech that doesn't directly tie into their internet/advertising business model.
I'm talking about the US allowing Japan to buy Boston Dynamics.
You should look at how much land and housing in the US is owned by foreign nationals, followed by foreign purchases and controlling interests in businesses. It is safe to say that still classified technology, as it exists today, is 5 to 10 years ahead of what is being revealed to the American people and foreign interests.
 

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Before the industrial revolution, most people were occupied in growing food. After the industrial revolution, most people were occupied making things. If a robot/AI revolution removes making things and the ancillary jobs of distribution and servicing, there isn’t any obvious replacement.

With all this automation and AI, nothing seems to be getting cheaper. Cars, houses, stuff in general keep getting more expensive. The only exception is consumer electronics. You still need money to live.

Paying people to do nothing leads to people who are worth nothing and has failed where it has been tried. Earning your livelihood is key to self-respect and requires an economy with the full mix of jobs that allows everyone something they can do. Unless something shows up to create this economy, the robot/AI revolution will self-destruct against the reality that people without jobs can’t buy the stuff produced by it.

During World War II, there was a machine in England that produced small radios for civilians. It had two operators. One who filled a bin with parts and another who inserted a battery in the completd radio, turned it on, and if it worked, put it in a box. After the war, the machines were not used.
 

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Before the industrial revolution, most people were occupied in growing food. After the industrial revolution, most people were occupied making things. If a robot/AI revolution removes making things and the ancillary jobs of distribution and servicing, there isn’t any obvious replacement.

With all this automation and AI, nothing seems to be getting cheaper. Cars, houses, stuff in general keep getting more expensive. The only exception is consumer electronics. You still need money to live.

Paying people to do nothing leads to people who are worth nothing and has failed where it has been tried. Earning your livelihood is key to self-respect and requires an economy with the full mix of jobs that allows everyone something they can do. Unless something shows up to create this economy, the robot/AI revolution will self-destruct against the reality that people without jobs can’t buy the stuff produced by it.

During World War II, there was a machine in England that produced small radios for civilians. It had two operators. One who filled a bin with parts and another who inserted a battery in the completd radio, turned it on, and if it worked, put it in a box. After the war, the machines were not used.
Prove it.
 

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Thanks for sharing. It's really good indeed. I did get it myself only thanks to the "BossTown"
 
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