You could build them at the same time as the rivers using the drydocks at both williamtowns and cockatoo islands. Propbably could meam u could build the 2nd batch of 4 in australia then
Yes, lengthening the slipways would greatly help Oz's ability to build warships.
It would be ideal if it happend in the 20s after hmas adelaide was lauched. Ive got a whole ATL in my head if that happens. Though still if it happend post ww2 it would still be a quite handy upgraded to have done
I often wonder how hard the Canadian government tried to sell the 280 class Huron later Athabaskan to anyone and what the RAN thought of them?
I would say it would need a lot of modification to be allowed to fire Tartar/Standard Missile cause the RAN would want Area Air Defence with it as well.
Ironically, the Hurons were a cut-and-bob-tailed version of a 1960s DDG design. So, the design they were derived from had Tartar.
Blamey suggested using helicopters in New Guinea while the campaign was still underway for resupply and other missions. For all his actual faults and conflated bad reputation, Blamey had always been an innovator and always pushed the adoption and integration of new technology.
Yeah the Book mentioned that as well, 6 with 25 proposed of the Sikorsky R-5 would have been quite handy.
Yeah we talked about the POD, though i was thinking how an earlier POD, either RAAF airmen in RAF Helo SQNs in Malaya in the 50s or even the WW2 proposal
Interesting idea mate, i wonder if u could turn the GAF Turana into a recce drone? As an indegious design for both the Army and RAN.
Indeed Caryina2642!
That is another option too, maybe GAF Jindivik for the RAAF and Army & GAF Turana for the RAN would be the way forward.
We possibly have mate, there's lot of development potential in the GAF Turana/Ikara system that could have been done, which would have increased Australia Missile/Drone production ability.
Sounds quite good, i wonder how these would go on the export market if developed and adopted?
Battlefield recce, atrillery spotting, general recce, maritime patrol (once melbourne & S2s retire) amd bassically anything that doesnt warrant a RF111 or is too risky for an OH58.
Err...there was the entire Ryan Model 147series and similar. Yes, they weren't as advanced as what we have these days but they weren't totally unknown. This scenario could have perhaps seen Australia getting involved with something similar but using local designs. Perhaps post Vietnam war. They would be used as an adjunct to other capabilities, manned and otherwise. For instance, the Turana based derivatives could provide useful tactical recon whereas the Jindivik could be more strategic.
For a small force like the ADF, I envisage such drones used as a sort of force multiplier - information is power.
The likes of the Israeli and South African armed forces revered combat capabilities, for small countries was greatly contributed to their willingness to live outside the box, utilising both ORBATS, tactics and equipment, which broke with traditional orthodoxies. Australia should be no different - sent trends, instead of following them.
Nor can I ague with that mate!
I disagree these two drones would have been quite handy for the ADF in preparing for a low or medium threat level, especially once digital cameras and datalink become available. (these could come into service earlier if Australia invests in them as we do have a good record of inventing stuff)
The better drone conops is still recon, you're just getting it faster and faster as you get digital imaging and datalinks.
I really don't understand how the Aussies didn't do full recon units.
A combination of utter complacency and feeding off Intel from Uncle Sam.....
Even if you can't do a full division in front line troops, you still need all the supporting units to be able to operate independently of needing another country's assets!
