Unknown Ultralight Timm Aircraft (1 Motorized, 1 Glider) to Identify

[Romantic Technofreak]

Hi Secret Projects,

these pictures are again from the San Diego Air and Space Museum's Flickr account. Timm is mentioned as constructor.

Picture #1: shows an ultralight aicraft together with what I mean are Curtiss Jennies (please correct if you disagree, the outline of the vertical fin differs to usual pictures).

Picture #2: shows the aircraft in #1 and a person obviously demonstrating how light it is, and its propeller is chain-driven.

Picture #3: shows an ultralight glider with the symbol of Timm Aircraft on the fin.

Can you name them? Please do so.

Thank you, and best regards,
RT

 

[Stargazer]

Can you name them?

Unfortunately, and despite the fact I know of at least two dozen models/variants of Timm Aircraft, none of the above rings a bell!

Otto Timm is one of the few American builders who, despite having a career spanning five decades (from his earliest in 1911 to his 1965 Whitehead "N° 21B" replica), has never been properly documented.

Thanks for sharing these interesting photos, anyway.

 

[Apophenia]

... together with what I mean are Curtiss Jennies (please correct if you disagree, the outline of the vertical fin differs to usual pictures)...

The aircraft flanking that Timm not JN-4 Jennys ... exactly. The vertical tails most resemble that of the Curtiss N-9 while those angled wingtips look more like a Curtiss Model R. That said, most Model Rs had aerodynamically-balanced rudders while the N-9 had 3-bay wings. (BTW, both Ns and Rs are best-known as floatplanes but some were delivered with wheels.)

The above leaves me wondering if we might be looking at hybrid - ie: some sort of postwar 'chimera' made up of parts from various Curtiss types?

 

[Stargazer]

The aircraft flanking that Timm not a JN-4 Jennys ... exactly. The vertical tails most resemble that of the Curtiss N-9 while those angled wingtips look more like a Curtiss Model R. That said, most Model Rs had aerodynamically-balanced rudders while the N-9 had 3-bay wings. (BTW, both Ns and Rs are best-known as floatplanes but some were delivered with wheels.)

The above leaves me wondering if we might be looking at hybrid - ie: some sort of postwar 'chimera' made up of parts from various Curtiss types?

Totally agree. I wanted to write about that, but couldn't exactly pinpoint one particular type that fitted the image.

 

[Apophenia]

Totally agree. I wanted to write about that, but couldn't exactly pinpoint one particular type that fitted the image.

Yep, my head is still spinning with that image. I do wish we could see more of right hand aircraft's tail ... although it may not help!