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The 7 deadly sins of airplane design Barnaby Wainfan (Facetmobile builder, Northrop engineer)
https://www.eaatogether.org/live/forums/6174385951001
The presentation is definitely worth a watch.

I'm not sure if this is the right forum or not, but most of the examples he gives are post war failures. I think it might be illuminating to try and fit failures of projects we talk about to these sins to see how useful the list is. I've created a summary below.

Sin 1: invalid assumptions in specifications
- airplane is a tool
- ConOps defines the job and how it is to be done
- engineers design plane to meet the requirements of the conops
::: examples:
- B-58 only useful for penetration with nuke, not other missions after cold war thawing in late 60s.
- Multi-seat WW-2 fighters for anti-bomber role: Bell SFM-1 Airacuda, Boulton Paul Defiant (no forward guns),
- Failed business model: extrapolate last trend one step too far: SST: speed, Brabazon: comfort, Princess: runways built during WW2 eliminated need for seaplanes, A380: ETOPS change eliminated hub and spoke long haul system.

Sin 2: overconstrained
- too many constraints damage ability to perform mission
- Mission related: restrictive operating conditions, too many missions, unrealistic goals
::: Example: F-111
- non mission related: hangar size, configuration, specific size or other geometric constraints
::: Examples: Short Sterling: hangar size, standard RN hangar led to lack of wingspan which reduced operating altitude to below AA ceiling, US hardened shelters are 44 feet wide.

Sin 3. Dependence on new or immature tech: can give advantage, but: project can fail if tech doesn't work, overoptimism common, need to have a plan B.
::: Examples: Rockwell XFV-12,
JSF: both bet on new tech:
Boeing: low risk on propulsion (Harrier); high risk on thermoplastic wing skins to save weight
Lockheed: high risk on lift fan; low risk on structure
Both bet on new tech, the one that made the new tech work won.

Sin 4. Success of airplane depends on success of engine: engine must perform for aircraft to perform, erosion of engine performance hurts plane's performance (thrust, weight, SFC, reliability)
- If airplane is designed to limit of projected engine performance, airframe can out grow engine: weight increase, drag increase.
::: Example: Eclipse 500 very light jet, Williams EJ-22 turbofan: 500 lbs thrust/$40,000, engine did not produce thrust on time to support Eclipse production schedule, Eclipse bankrupt.

Sin 5. One airplane, many innovations (hobbyshop syndrome): all critical systems must work for vehicle to be successful, working out bugs in many new systems is much more difficult than doing one at a time, one significant failure can doom program.
::: Example: X-33, linear aerospike engine, composite crygenic LH2 tanks, metallic thermal protection system, new lifting body aerodynamic configuration; LH2 tank failed in testing, configuration changed dramatically as aero stability and control issues emerged.

Sin 6. Lack of margin and fallback options: design margins necessary to accommodate shortfalls as design becomes real, weight growth, thrust reduction, higher fuel consumption, higher drag, payload growth.
- Highly integrated design may not have the flexibility to adjust, design margin and fallback options must be designed in from the beginning.
The conventional wing-body-tail configuration works because of the ability to adapt the configuration during design.
::: Example: A-12 GD/MD; weight growth caused by poor load paths and difficulty making large composite parts, approach and launch speeds increased requiring wind over deck, no way to increase wing area of CLmax, span constrained by carrier suitability, sweep constrained by observables, tailless configuration cannot trim flaps.

Sin 7. concept driven design: concept believed to offer some vital advantage, concept becomes more important than suitability of the configuration, advantage may not be real, or may be offset by inherent disadvantages in the concept, design compromises to keep concept pure and fix problems it causes.
- Magic configurations: triplanes, aft tail pusher props, turboprop canards, BWB (maybe for very large aircraft, jury is still out).
::: Example: Beech starship: turboprop canard, all composite, pusher engines; there was no performance advantage over conventional layout to justify price.

The first thing to come to my mind was an example of Sin 4: the Allison T40 engine's reliability leading to the failure of all the aircraft built around it. The Skyshark and Tradewind especially were promising aircraft.

How would you categorize some other projects? Or what projects do you think failed for reasons not listed in these sins?
 
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Nimrod MRA4 - Sins 1 & 7

Sin 1 Invalid Assumption in Spec, -
-Four engines was the only acceptable solution. Of course the job is being done today by a twin.

-The engineerIng resource ramp up was known to be invalid by both parties as the contract was being signed. = 2 years of delay (Original CDr 1999 slipped to 2001)

-The Russian submarine threat all but disappeared during the achieved development timescale;- hence the MR4 fleet sized dropped to unsustainable levels. = No business case

Sin 7 Concept Driven design with perceived advantage -
-Four engines (again) forced the reuse of existing airframe. Initially seen as a cost advantage but as time progressed nearly everything needed was new and costly, exceeding the ability of manufacturing to produce the vast number of small component batches = 3years of delay (First flight Dec2000 slips to Aug 2004)

<No the wings did fit = no delay despite the bull...t>

- A “make it with last century technology because FBW is known to be expensive” wish lead to cable operated ailerons which BAESYSTEMS struggled to deliver. There was nobody left who could do clean sheet design of cable flight controls = 4 years of delays from redesigns <yes 3 redesigns>, retesting, recertifications, and many associated repeat flight tests (the original planned 18 months of flight testing takes 5years)

The ongoing Liliam scam - All seven Sins I reckon
 
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no examples for Sin 4?
I'm sure there are quite a few planes that had good designs but were hampered by poor engine tech..
i'm guessing a few of the PRC designs

as for the XFV-12.. had they resolved some tech issues. could that fueselage carry much? it looks like there's few ideal places for pylons
 
Sin 5: Canadian Avro Arrow tried to develop a new air frame, new engines, new missiles and fire control system at the same time.
All systems were progressing, but at slow paces and high costs. The Arrow prototype flew with American-made engines because Orenda Iroquois engines were not ready in time,

This - late 1950s dilemma - reflects a bigger political problem with generals and admirals maintaining grandeous dreams in the face of decreasing defence budgets. Meanwhile, the Canadian Army wasted time and money developing the abortive Bobcat armoured personnel carrier and the Royal Canadian Navy wasted money on HMCS Brador hydrofoil even after they had decided to concentrate on flying helicopters from DDEs. Fierce inter-service rivalry say admirals and generals competing for shrinking budgets.
 
no examples for Sin 4?
I'm sure there are quite a few planes that had good designs but were hampered by poor engine tech..
i'm guessing a few of the PRC designs

as for the XFV-12.. had they resolved some tech issues. could that fueselage carry much? it looks like there's few ideal places for pylons

And exactly ZERO volume for fuel in the wings...
 
no examples for Sin 4?
I'm sure there are quite a few planes that had good designs but were hampered by poor engine tech..
i'm guessing a few of the PRC designs

as for the XFV-12.. had they resolved some tech issues. could that fueselage carry much? it looks like there's few ideal places for pylons
I mentioned the Allison T40 which, other than a handful of Tradewinds that saw service, killed the Skyshark, Super Savage, and everything else it touched. There are a lot of designs hampered by poor engines, most of the early 50s designs come to mind, but that's a bit different than failing because the aircraft is built around an engine that doesn't appear on time or at all.

I suppose the L1011 might fit sin 4, since by the time RR and Lockheed got bailed out and had the engine working in the L1011 the DC-10 had already captured the three engine widebody market.

I've seen drawings of the XFV-12 with a pair of sidewinders on each wingtip and a couple sparrows on the fuselage, but no bombs. I think Spangenberg said as designed it had negative range, which isn't terribly useful.

riggerrob: I'm not so sure about the Arrow, since an argument frequently put forth about it and the TSR.2 is political issues killed them. If the "customer" changes their mind and becomes hostile to the program, or changes the conops during development (Sandys white paper perhaps), I don't think I would call that a design sin.

And I'm not sure what to call overoptimistic cost estimates: we can build it for this much - no we can't *cost overruns*. I don't know if that's a sales issue by overpromising to get the contract, a management issue by deliberately underbidding, a design issue by assuming problems will be easy to overcome, or a customer issue because the customer rejects realistic estimates (N/G A-12) because they want something at an unrealistic price (GD/MD A-12) and get trapped in a money pit because of it. Whatever it is, it punishes accurate assessments and rewards optimistic ones.
 
And I'm not sure what to call over optimistic cost estimates: we can build it for this much - no we can't *cost overruns*. I don't know if that's a sales issue by overpromising to get the contract, a management issue by deliberately underbidding, a design issue by assuming problems will be easy to overcome, or a customer issue because the customer rejects realistic estimates (N/G A-12) because they want something at an unrealistic price (GD/MD A-12) and get trapped in a money pit because of it. Whatever it is, it punishes accurate assessments and rewards optimistic ones.

Very true.

Frequently now in the defence industry, the business model is based on a very profitable after sales, with the trick being not to make too big a loss to deliver the basic platform. Where this goes badly is when there’s long delivery delays;- the contractor incurs extra cost, goes into bigger debt and can’t survive until the after sales. They know a government needs the capability, so will not let them go bust and this might affect the original bid price.

This new age with significant capital projects coming once every twenty years, the pre bid to entry into service being 10-35 years (big complex projects JSF configuration studies late 80’s, F35 EIS 2015 ) making money by a simple sales transaction just doesn’t work anymore.
 
Sin4 - isn’t this happening on our eyes with B777X program. Russian Myasishchev M-4 Molot.
 
... riggerrob: I'm not so sure about the Arrow, since an argument frequently put forth about it and the TSR.2 is political issues killed them. If the "customer" changes their mind and becomes hostile to the program, or changes the conops during development (Sandys white paper perhaps), I don't think I would call that a design sin.... [/QUOTE]

Agreed!
Avro Arrow may not have been an engineering failure, but she was definitely a management failure. Engineers were too slow in developing all the complex new technology requested by overly-ambitious RCAF generals under a Liberal government.
As soon as John Deifenbaker and his Conservative Party won a federal election in 1958, they cancelled a few "Liberal" programs, most noteably the Avro Arrow (1959). When Deifenbaker waivered over purchasing Bomark missiles, the Conservative Party lost the next federal election.
 
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Sin4 - isn’t this happening on our eyes with B777X program. Russian Myasishchev M-4 Molot.
Nope, the GE9X is a certified engine. I cannot say too much more due to being part of that program, but I can say that it is a fantastic engine, and our customers will be very happy with it.
 
About the AVRO Arrow, read Requiem for a Giant by Palmiro Campagna. He answers many questions about the reasons it was cancelled and has the supporting documents to prove his case.
 
Sin #4:

Westinghouse J40. Billed as a "super-engine" that would produce double the power of existing engines, the US Navy fell for the hype and specified the J40 for several new designs before it had even run on a test stand.

Finally passing acceptance trials a full year late, it only produced 75% of the claimed target power, and even that version was highly unreliable (a higher-powered version was tested but repeatedly failed on the test stand). The afterburner development was even further behind schedule.


Aircraft designed for J40:
McDonnell F3H Demon - first production version with J40 cut short and removed from service, later redesigned production versions ended up powered by the Allison J71 which was larger and heavier, but just matched the promised power of the J40.
Never achieved the success that many felt it could have due to gaining some 2,600 lb empty weight and 9,000lb MTOW, in great part due to the changes needed to fit the J71, and the J71 having greater fuel consumption than the J40, reducing the combat radius.

Douglas F4D Skyray - Douglas chief designer Ed Heinemann was skeptical about Westinghouse's promises, and designed the F4D with a larger engine bay... which was able to accept the larger and heavier but more-powerful Pratt & Whitney J57 easily. Smart man.

Douglas A3D Skywarrior - same designer, same story, same production engine.

Grumman XF10F Jaguar - variable-sweep design that had far more problems than the engine... test pilot Corwin "Corky" Meyer, the only pilot to fly the Jaguar, described it as entertaining to fly "because there was so much wrong with it." Would have required a nearly complete redesign to enter production.

Convair Skate - proposed hull-borne seaplane fighter, never more than a series of paper proposals, from single-seat to 2-seat, single-engined to twin-engined - and even a submarine-carried version!
https://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/skate1-1024x622.jpg
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=1211
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft34938.htm
 
I just leave it here - B777X certification is now scheduled for 2025.
https://simpleflying.com/boeing-777x-regulator-meeting/
Perhaps Sin 3,5, and 6, but not Sin 4. GE has engines that are certified to what the customer wanted and are waiting to go on aircraft for the GE9X engine.

I make these statements not as an employee of my company, but one that loves aviation.

The delay right now is likely related to the flight control architecture as well as now there is so much sensitivity that few want to be the one that signs the cert reports on the regulator side, so it is very much cert by committee. Other industry cert efforts are seeing their programs be delayed due to changes in the FAA methods, with the latest being Gulfstream. It is not to say that this is a bad thing, but anytime there are major changes in the cert program, the first going through it always takes longer. Boeing and the FAA are now having to deal with the fallout of their previous errors.
 
IIRC, engineering the gear-box / clutch power transfer to F-35's lift-fan had to 'seriously push envelope'. As I understand it, there was a nasty tendency for early designs to 'spontaneously disassemble'. Fortunately, on test-stands rather than in aircraft...

Is there public info on how they resolved their 'implausible' power/weight issue ??

Aside from that, any aircraft or engines designed without 'wriggle room', never mind 'growth potential', seem doomed. Gone are the days when a nimble design team could metaphorically cut the wings and engine pods off a 'Manchester', double the 'inner' sections and create the 'Lancaster'...
 
Sin 3:
1) the definition of the sin encapsulates the vulnerability that lurks at the core of the entire weapons system concept, and to a certain extent may overlap with sin 6 in specific cases.
2) The US decision to develop the primary jet fighter which would end up fighting the air war over Vietnam without an internal gun, requiring field lashups and redesigns when armament limitations and rules of engagement collided. (Other nations were guilty of it too, e.g. the UK with the Sea Vixen and the F.3 version of the Lightning, but the Phantom was the one that saw the most combat and was lucky enough that it carried enough missiles to offset the issue.)

Sin 5: Republic XF-103 and BAC TSR.2.
 
IIRC, engineering the gear-box / clutch power transfer to F-35's lift-fan had to 'seriously push envelope'. As I understand it, there was a nasty tendency for early designs to 'spontaneously disassemble'. Fortunately, on test-stands rather than in aircraft...

Is there public info on how they resolved their 'implausible' power/weight issue ??

The clutch technology comes from Carbon/Carbon aircraft wheel brakes, which was a really good starting point. Very high power light weight gearboxes are tricky little blighters due to the ridiculous number of vibration modes. When this goes wrong they discombobulate (running tickety boo to sweeping bits up off the floor) very rapidly. Carbon/Carbon wheel brakes can tend to vibrate especially when cold which generally gets dampen out between the tyre and the long main landing gear leg (although sometimes it can get worse!!) . So the challenge was to join together something that was prone to vibrate with something that was sensitive to vibration. The guys made a great job of doing this but it did take quite a bit of time.
 
Thank you. Be akin to brake-squeal on cars. IIRC, seems 'simple', but is exquisitely sensitive to material formulation...

FWIW, I've met such vibration modes in our lab's old test-tube centrifuge. If you pushed your luck with the balancing, and set an unfortunate speed, it could dance like Fred Astair & 'Ginger' Rodgers. One day, it climbed its feet from their safety cups and made a dash for the exit...

Wasn't such resonant frequency stuff how Stuxnet nobbled those Iranian gas-centrifuges ??
 
You can make a test tube centrifuge whistle making a sound like its bearings are failing by putting some dry ice chunks in a test tube of water. It caused my chemestry teacher to rapidly leave his seat to check on the shrieking dynamo and shut it down. I calmly walked up and retrieved my test tube of no longer smoking water and sat down. He switched it on again and there was no whistle. I resumed my studies.
 
IIRC, engineering the gear-box / clutch power transfer to F-35's lift-fan had to 'seriously push envelope'. As I understand it, there was a nasty tendency for early designs to 'spontaneously disassemble'. Fortunately, on test-stands rather than in aircraft...

Is there public info on how they resolved their 'implausible' power/weight issue ??

The clutch technology comes from Carbon/Carbon aircraft wheel brakes, which was a really good starting point. Very high power light weight gearboxes are tricky little blighters due to the ridiculous number of vibration modes. When this goes wrong they discombobulate (running tickety boo to sweeping bits up off the floor) very rapidly. Carbon/Carbon wheel brakes can tend to vibrate especially when cold which generally gets dampen out between the tyre and the long main landing gear leg (although sometimes it can get worse!!) . So the challenge was to join together something that was prone to vibrate with something that was sensitive to vibration. The guys made a great job of doing this but it did take quite a bit of time.
I believe they also took some tech from the Top Fuel dragster clutch packs, which are very carefully allowed to slip some at low output shaft speeds because otherwise the engine torque will destroy things. And when you're talking about absorbing some 10,000horsepower and probably 5000ftlbs torque, you get impressive "rapid unscheduled disassemblies".
 
I think Sin # 7 can be applied to unconventional aircraft (eg. canards, unusual engine configuration, weight distribution leading to adjustment of wing planform) such as tailless or flying-wing military aircraft (both proven) that gave advantage to performance in exchange of flight characteristics and introducing new concepts to alleviate these problems (that may trigger Sin # 5 whatsoever).

Moreover the last sin could impact the military requirements for the aircraft designed and its role (eg. air force wants large nukes on flying wing bomb bay, flying wing fighters)
 
Sin # 1 (assumptions in specifications) could be applied, I think, on aircraft that fell victim to numerous changes on military aircraft requirements, preferably flight performance and armament.
 
Sin 7: Curtiss XP-55 Ascender, Bachem Ba 349 Natter, Heinkel He 177, Blohm und Voss BV 141, Kawanishi E15K1 Shiun, Aichi M6A1 Seiran, Arado Ar 231, S.A.I. S.S.4, Piaggio P.119.
Is the Northrop XP-79 can be considered under Sin 7?
 
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As to Sin No 1 being root cause of XP-46, XP-62 I would say 'more due to lack of talent' than specification over control.

The two features distinct from P-40 design were 1.) imbedded radiator aft cockpit, and 2.) New airfoil section NACA 23016.5 which hopefuly would drive performance to stated AAF-MD requirements.

Neither the new wing, nor the attempt at a meridith effect cooling sysem, reduced drag to a level that was achievable with the Allison V-1710-39 to push the XP-46 at mandated condition of self sealing tanks, full combat fuel load an armament.

The elapsed time between contract (9/39) and first flight (2/41) was beaten by at least 8 months by North American's X-73 independent of Alison's inexcusablly late delivery of commited V-1710-39 for X-73. And, the XP-46 was 1000 pound lighter than production NA-73/Mustang I which was 30mph faster than Xp46 - both fully loaded.

The XP-46 when suitably burdened by armor plate, minimum armament, and combat fuel load out - dropped 50mph in top speed. That implies Induced drag increase due to Dekta GW, but more likely due to CD vs alpha increase of the wing body at the 'new angle of attack' for high speed operation.

Don Berlin spearheaded XP-46 and XP-60, then left to run XP-75 design. Is there a thread here?
 
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As an aerospace engineer, I'd love to watch a fake AI spawned response by/debate with Clarence Leonard "Kelly" Johnson of Lockheed Skunk Works Rules fame to/on the arguments made above, even if only for trying to spot and instantaneously call out any Real World bloopers :cool:...
 
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Not so much an issue now, but 'Long Drive-Shafts' seemed a persistent bug-bear for US designs.

My understanding is that US engines had been comparatively higher capacity, lower-revving compared to eg UK engines.
IIRC, Road-racing experience in UK & Europe drove development of superb static & dynamic balancing, which carried over...
YMMV.
And, yes, there is so that political mine-field, with its shifting reefs, wrecks and Murphy-bombs...
 
Not so much an issue now, but 'Long Drive-Shafts' seemed a persistent bug-bear for US designs.

My understanding is that US engines had been comparatively higher capacity, lower-revving compared to eg UK engines.
IIRC, Road-racing experience in UK & Europe drove development of superb static & dynamic balancing, which carried over...
YMMV.
And, yes, there is so that political mine-field, with its shifting reefs, wrecks and Murphy-bombs...
Long-drive shafts suffer a long list of vibration problems. Smaller drive shafts suffer from the torsional vibrations imposed by piston engines .... Remember that back during World War 2, Bell was one of the few manufacturers installing long drive shafts in front-line airplanes (P-39 Airacobra and P-63 King Cobra). Post-war, Bell was one of the few manufacturers that succeeded in installing long tail-rotor drive shafts in the first generation of light helicopters. Large helicopters only became vaible after smooth-turning gas turbine engines were perfected during the 1950s.

Since fuel was cheap in North America - until 1973 - manufacturers found it easy to simply install larger displacement engines.
Lower-revving and slower-turning make for greater reliability. Look at the Taliban's favourite ride" Toyota HiLux with its low-compression-ratio, slow-turning engine being extremely reliable in remote conditions that suffer from poor flow of spare parts and few educated mechanics.
European manufacturers being taxed by volume, so added turbo-chargers and higher compression-ratios to small engines to make them produce more power.
 
Long-drive shafts suffer a long list of vibration problems. Smaller drive shafts suffer from the torsional vibrations imposed by piston engines .... Remember that back during World War 2, Bell was one of the few manufacturers installing long drive shafts in front-line airplanes (P-39 Airacobra and P-63 King Cobra). Post-war, Bell was one of the few manufacturers that succeeded in installing long tail-rotor drive shafts in the first generation of light helicopters. Large helicopters only became vaible after smooth-turning gas turbine engines were perfected during the 1950s.

Since fuel was cheap in North America - until 1973 - manufacturers found it easy to simply install larger displacement engines.
Lower-revving and slower-turning make for greater reliability. Look at the Taliban's favourite ride" Toyota HiLux with its low-compression-ratio, slow-turning engine being extremely reliable in remote conditions that suffer from poor flow of spare parts and few educated mechanics.
European manufacturers being taxed by volume, so added turbo-chargers and higher compression-ratios to small engines to make them produce more power.
I don't really understand, why driveshafts in planes made so much trouble when every car, truck uses them as well as boats and ships.

One very intresting solution was the curved Pontiak rope drive shaft for a transaxel layout. This lightweight solution which worked very.well would be a good starting point for a driveshaft in planes

Is there any source for especially.low compression engines in Toyota Hillux? I don't by that, especially not for the Diesel powered variats.
 
One very intresting solution was the curved Pontiak rope drive shaft for a transaxel layout. This lightweight solution which worked very.well would be a good starting point for a driveshaft in planes
That required a torque tube running from the engine to the transaxle, which can be heavy.



Is there any source for especially.low compression engines in Toyota Hillux? I don't by that, especially not for the Diesel powered variats.
Would "low power engines" make you happier? And NA diesels, not turbodiesels, so they're really hurting for horsepower and even their torque isn't great.

But yes, the older Toyota engines in the 1970s and 80s escpecially were running low compression to handle the 60 or 70 octane crappy gas in Africa and the Middle East. ~80hp for a 1.5L, 70hp out of a 1.6L, 90hp out of 2.2L, Diesel making 60hp/95lbft, 1.6L making 72hp, diesel making 70hp/115lbft, 80hp out of 1.8L, non-turbo Diesels making 90hp/125lbft, and that brings us up to the 6th generation that started production in 1997.
 
That required a torque tube running from the engine to the transaxle, which can be heavy.




Would "low power engines" make you happier? And NA diesels, not turbodiesels, so they're really hurting for horsepower and even their torque isn't great.

But yes, the older Toyota engines in the 1970s and 80s escpecially were running low compression to handle the 60 or 70 octane crappy gas in Africa and the Middle East. ~80hp for a 1.5L, 70hp out of a 1.6L, 90hp out of 2.2L, Diesel making 60hp/95lbft, 1.6L making 72hp, diesel making 70hp/115lbft, 80hp out of 1.8L, non-turbo Diesels making 90hp/125lbft, and that brings us up to the 6th generation that started production in 1997.
I would say, 201 PS out of a 2.4 L Diesel in.the current Hillux is quite sporty. The American 6.6 L Duramax has a much lower specific power output.
 
As for the torque tube, this is often used in transaxle drives, I believe mainly for NVH reasons but not a necessity. The thin curved driveshaft can shurly compensate missalignments to a certain degree.
 
These fit into some of the original categories, but from reading about a lot of designs which failed:

1) Never design an aircraft around an engine which hasn't been proven yet (sin 4).

2) You will need larger tail surfaces than you think (especially true of rudders).

3) For the love of all that is good - make sure your centre of gravity isn't too far back.

I could add a few more based on different time periods (e.g. for the pre-war designers: It is better to have only elevator and aileron control, than it is to have only elevator and rudder control).

I'd be curious if there are other well-founded pieces of advice that are a bit more specific? It is interesting how v-tails and flying wings have been repeatedly seductive, but only offer advantages under very specific conditions (sin 6).
 
These fit into some of the original categories, but from reading about a lot of designs which failed:

1) Never design an aircraft around an engine which hasn't been proven yet (sin 4).

2) You will need larger tail surfaces than you think (especially true of rudders).

3) For the love of all that is good - make sure your centre of gravity isn't too far back.

I could add a few more based on different time periods (e.g. for the pre-war designers: It is better to have only elevator and aileron control, than it is to have only elevator and rudder control).

I'd be curious if there are other well-founded pieces of advice that are a bit more specific? It is interesting how v-tails and flying wings have been repeatedly seductive, but only offer advantages under very specific conditions (sin 6).
V-tails were amply illustrated by Lazlo Pazmany. His book on light plane design includes a brilliant illustration about tail volume and how V-tails still need the same tail volume even if it is tilted 45 degrees.
Beechcraft repeatedly increased horsepower and gross weight of successive variants of Bonanzas but was low to increase tail moment arm or volume. There were also quality control problems with a wide variety of skin gauges and rivet sizes.
 
I mentioned the Allison T40 which, other than a handful of Tradewinds that saw service, killed the Skyshark, Super Savage, and everything else it touched. There are a lot of designs hampered by poor engines, most of the early 50s designs come to mind, but that's a bit different than failing because the aircraft is built around an engine that doesn't appear on time or at all.

I suppose the L1011 might fit sin 4, since by the time RR and Lockheed got bailed out and had the engine working in the L1011 the DC-10 had already captured the three engine widebody market.

I've seen drawings of the XFV-12 with a pair of sidewinders on each wingtip and a couple sparrows on the fuselage, but no bombs. I think Spangenberg said as designed it had negative range, which isn't terribly useful.

riggerrob: I'm not so sure about the Arrow, since an argument frequently put forth about it and the TSR.2 is political issues killed them. If the "customer" changes their mind and becomes hostile to the program, or changes the conops during development (Sandys white paper perhaps), I don't think I would call that a design sin.

And I'm not sure what to call overoptimistic cost estimates: we can build it for this much - no we can't *cost overruns*. I don't know if that's a sales issue by overpromising to get the contract, a management issue by deliberately underbidding, a design issue by assuming problems will be easy to overcome, or a customer issue because the customer rejects realistic estimates (N/G A-12) because they want something at an unrealistic price (GD/MD A-12) and get trapped in a money pit because of it. Whatever it is, it punishes accurate assessments and rewards optimistic ones.
To understand the "big picture" read the book "Confessions of a Corporate Hit Man." about how he was hired by the World Monetary Fund and big US banks to write hopelessly optimistic business proposals about prospective major construction projects in Third World countries: ports, railroads, mines, hydro-electric dams, etc. His hopelessly optimistic business proposals were based upon continued low wages, low fuel costs, low construction costs and high demand for finished products.
Local ruling families cheerfully agreed to these plans as long as bribes ... er ... consultant fees were sufficient. When operating costs rose or commodity prices fell, these projects proved unprofitable and tax-payers/peasants got stuck with decades-long bills.
All empires played these games during the 19th century.

For example, look at the container-port that China built in Sri Lanka. When it proved unprofitable. the People's Liberation Army Navy got a 99 year lease on a large port in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Returning to the aircraft industry, if the sales department writes overly optimistic sales expectations, the company struggles to recoup tooling costs over shorter production runs and the project may prove unprofitable.
 

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