USA Giant Aircraft Projects of 1920s to ID ?

[hesham]

Hi,

who can ID this beast,what was it ?,

A giant plane project
London, August 8. - The correspondent
Individual of the Star in New York ensures
that an English aircraft manufacturer, working in the
United States, has just drawn up
Blueprints of an airplane This device would be capable of
carrying a hundred
fifty passengers from one bank to the other
of the Atlantic in less than 36 hours. It
would be powered by nine Napier engines
of 450 horsepower each and would have an average
speed of 150 miles. The price of the passage would not
exceed 275 dollars.

 

[avion ancien]

That it is said that the project is being undertaken by an English aircraft manufacturer working in the USA should help to narrow the field.

 

[riggerrob]

That it is said that the project is being undertaken by an English aircraft manufacturer working in the USA should help to narrow the field.

Trnaslation: ".. will carry 150 passengers from one side of the Atlantic to the other in 36 hours. Nine Napier engines producing 450 horsepower each for a minimum speed of 150 miles per hour. Price will not exceed 275 dollars."

 

[avion ancien]

Price will not exceed 275 dollars."

275 $ is 'le prix du passage' maximale, i.e. the maximum fare for the transatlantic crossing. If the price of the aeroplane had been 275 $ I suspect that the manufacturer would have been inundated with orders!

 

[Apophenia]

I notice some newspaper snippets mentioning a nine Napier Lion-powered transatlantic aircraft. This one is from the Creston Review (Creston, BC) of 13 November 1925.

"...furnished with nine Napier Lion engines of four hundred and fifty horsepower each, should be able to navigate the route, and Mr. Navarro is confident that they will... An estimated wing-spread of one hundred and eighty-five feet from tip to tip presents tho vision of an awesome condor nosing its way through cloudland, so that the problem of landing and providing suitable landing places is proboably greater than getting into the air or proper steerage facing all weathers of these high altitudes."

Elsewhere I see contemporary mentions of a "Joe G. Navarro" relating to a proposed transatlantic service but I'm not sure if this is the same person.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dears,

and Mr. Navarro worked from that early time,maybe you are right my dear Apophenia.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/navarro-naiad-amphibian.17571/

 

[avion ancien]

Ah, J.G.Navarro. King Midas in reverse. All he touched turned to dust.

 

[tallguy]

That it is said that the project is being undertaken by an English aircraft manufacturer working in the USA should help to narrow the field.

Could this be confusion about the Tarrant Tabor/Barling Bomber?

 

[Sherman Tank]

That it is said that the project is being undertaken by an English aircraft manufacturer working in the USA should help to narrow the field.

Could this be confusion about the Tarrant Tabor/Barling Bomber?

Not a chance. The XNBL-1 was already two years old in 1925, didn't use Napier Lion engines, and wasn't a nine-engined passenger plane.

 

[Schneiderman]

If it was Navarro, which seems likely, then the aircraft concept was probably similar to the one he patented in 1927.

 

[tallguy]

That it is said that the project is being undertaken by an English aircraft manufacturer working in the USA should help to narrow the field.

Could this be confusion about the Tarrant Tabor/Barling Bomber?

Not a chance. The XNBL-1 was already two years old in 1925, didn't use Napier Lion engines, and wasn't a nine-engined passenger plane.

The Tabor WAS Lion powered. Thought there might have been a passenger version of either of them might have been contemplated.

 

[hesham]

Also ID wanted to this;

A giant plane for 100 passengers

New York, August 27. - The "New
York Herald "states that a biplane
that can hold a hundred passengers is
in construction. It will weigh a hundred thousand
pounds and will have a length of one hundred
feet; the wings will measure two
hundred feet. It will have a crew of six and will have
a speed of one hundred and five miles an hour.
Passengers will be spread over two points and can
take their meals on mobile tables.

Le Peuple : organe quotidien du syndicalisme | 1927-08-28 | Gallica