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Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« on: October 15, 2007, 10:35:35 am »
My dear Jemiba,

can I ask you if there was a project to Hawker called HS-810
VTOL transport aircraft or not ?.

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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 10:51:06 am »
Acording to R.Payne "Struck on the Drawing Board", the HS.810 was a Circulation Control
Rotor designs, with rotors at the wingtips, powered by four RS 660-06 in two pods. Forward
thrust was provided by three RB 211. The concept was axed, because maximum speed was
limited to Mach .70 .
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 10:59:25 am »


  Thank you my dear Jemiba.

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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 11:23:19 am »
Hi,

the Hawker Siddeley Aviation and its engineers created a nice VTOL
100-passenger airliner projects in 1969,most of them were unknown.


http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1969/1969%20-%202138.html
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 08:35:45 am »
And if you look at the "VTOL port" you see where the whole idea fell apart.
By the time you have a site that big, no big deal to add a 2000 foot runway and operate a quiet STOL aircraft instead.

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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 10:48:49 am »
Hi,

the Hawker VTOL aircraft from Flightglobal,and the page also tell
about the HS.139 which was developed in parallel with Dornier Do.31
as VTOL aircraft.


http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1969/1969%20-%203288.html
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 07:16:04 am »
BBC Tomorrow's World 1970 and Interavia 1/1961.



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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 12:05:36 pm »
Twin Pegasus VTOL Strike aircraft - number unkown to me at the moment.
 
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2011, 02:56:25 pm »
Hi Barrington,


I think we spoke about them before,with other Hawker projects;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3153.msg30164.html#msg30164


We must merge those topics.

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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2011, 07:35:52 pm »
Twin Pegasus VTOL Strike aircraft - number unkown to me at the moment.


Is the second Pegasus mounted back to back but with the rear one pointing backwards? that reminds me of Dan Raymer's RIVET (something like reverse installation vectored thrust...). i thought he had a patent on it, but this seems to precede it.


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=238.0

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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 01:11:40 am »
Back to back yes - just noticed a 1965 date very faint on my photocopy.
 
 
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 04:42:34 am »
From Air Enthusiast Vol.1 No.1 dated June 1971, the Hawker Siddeley H.S.803 compound project, which I couldn't find elsewhere on the forum.


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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 07:15:14 am »
Great find, Mr. Bond!
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 09:06:49 am »
Yep, thanks for the picture and for the date - definitely precedes Raymer's.
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Re: Hawker Siddeley VTOL/STOL Concepts
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2011, 01:39:08 pm »
This list of Hawker Siddeley V/STOL projects was part of the same Air Enthusiast article that gave the H.S.803 artwork posted above:



For more on the D.H.129 (H.S.129), please see: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,634.0.html

For more on the H.S. 140 and 141, please check http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,307.0.html
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