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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2018, 06:39:12 pm »
Is there more to that "fractionated Trident" document?

Attached.

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 12:06:58 am »

The hitch is getting humans into space.  Neither Crew Dragon or CST-100 will fly until the end of the year.  Price per launch is expected to be $654 and $405million, respectively. 




Seemed excessive to me as well.  Hope someone can tease out what factors necessitate this pricing structure.  BTW...I got the pricing reversed.  Should be Crew Dragon, $405M and CST-100, $654M. 




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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2018, 06:33:05 am »
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2018/03/pentagons-new-arms-research-chief-eyes-space-based-ray-guns/146863/?oref=defenseone_today_nl

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Neutral-particle beams, a concept first tried in the 1980s, may get a fresh look under Michael Griffin.

“Directed energy is more than just big lasers, Griffin said. “That’s important. High-powered microwave approaches can effect an electronics kill. The same with the neutral particle beam systems we explored briefly in the 1990s” for use in space-based anti-missile systems. Such weapons can be “useful in a variety of environments” and have the “advantage of being non-attributable,” meaning that it can be hard to pin an attack with a particle weapon on any particular culprit since it leaves no evidence behind of who or even what did the damage.
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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2018, 12:15:42 pm »
it's happen, Trump make his dream come true...

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2018, 12:29:50 pm »
And confirmed.

President Trump Calls on Pentagon to Create New Military Branch: A 'Space Force'

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President Donald Trump called for a new “Space Force” to be added to the U.S. military as an armed service separate from the Pentagon’s five traditional uniformed branches.

“When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space,” Trump said Monday at a White House event on space policy. “We must have American dominance in space.”

http://time.com/5314994/donald-trump-pentagon-space-force/

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2018, 12:39:37 pm »
And confirmed.

President Trump Calls on Pentagon to Create New Military Branch: A 'Space Force'

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President Donald Trump called for a new “Space Force” to be added to the U.S. military as an armed service separate from the Pentagon’s five traditional uniformed branches.

“When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space,” Trump said Monday at a White House event on space policy. “We must have American dominance in space.”

http://time.com/5314994/donald-trump-pentagon-space-force/

Of course, Congress already rejected this idea. The NDAA instead creates a new separate Space Command within USAF.

http://spacenews.com/space-reforms-c...u-s-air-force/

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The NDAA empowers Air Force Space Command as the sole authority for organizing, training, and equipping all U.S. Air Force space forces. Air Force Space Command is made the focal point for a “space service” within the Air Force responsible for acquisition, resources and requirements.” This cadre of space “war fighters” would be tasked to fix the “systemic problems Congress identified in the national security space enterprise.”

The Air Force Space Command would be modeled after the Office of Naval Reactors, stressing deep technical expertise. The bill gives the commander of Air Force Space Command a six-year term.

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2018, 12:53:38 pm »
to be honest, as i heard the news, i had a laughing fit.

I wonder now, will they ripp out all Space flight activity from USAF, US Army and US Navy
and put it in US Space Force USSF ?
and were is money come to run that Force ?
probably the Budget USAF get for Space activity will transfer to USSF once there operational

and how will Russia, China and India react on that news ?

i could't not resist it, a joke about USSF...
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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2018, 01:06:37 pm »
It's important to mention that Trump cannot create a new independent service on his own authority.  The existing services are established under the National Security Act of 1947, and Congress would have to amend that to allow the creation of a separate United States Space Force.

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2018, 01:15:18 pm »
It's important to mention that Trump cannot create a new independent service on his own authority.  The existing services are established under the National Security Act of 1947, and Congress would have to amend that to allow the creation of a separate United States Space Force.
Someone should probably tell him.

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2018, 01:57:18 pm »
Some interesting points raised here.

Trump: ‘We are going to have the Space Force’

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Trump can order the Pentagon to create a Space Force but only Congress can make it happen.

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President Trump on Monday threw a wrench into the Pentagon’s carefully laid out plans to analyze how best to reorganize the military’s space forces. In remarks kicking off a meeting of the National Space Council, Trump pointedly directed the Pentagon to create a Space Force as a “separate but equal” branch of the U.S. military.

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According to sources, Trump’s remarks were not off-the-cuff. He had planned to make this announcement weeks ago, and Pentagon officials had been advised the president would be directing the creation of a Space Force at the June 18 National Space Council meeting. Trump mentioned his desire to have a Space Force at four different events in recent months, and the feedback he received was mostly positive, which motivated him to get the process started sooner rather than later.

http://spacenews.com/trump-we-are-going-to-have-the-space-force/

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2018, 05:41:39 pm »
https://news.usni.org/2018/06/18/34434

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The White House’s proposed military Space Force would likely rely heavily on existing personnel from inside the Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Army, plus a host of other intelligence agencies, experts told USNI News on Monday.

The Space Force was announced by President Trump on Monday. Trump’s directive doesn’t provide mission specifics, but the language suggests the Space Force would be charged with protecting both commercial and government assets in space.

“As space becomes increasingly contested, the demand for the Department of Defense to focus on protecting U.S. space assets and interests also increases. At the same time, the rapid commercialization of space requires a traffic management framework that protects U.S. interests and considers the private sector’s needs,” the directive reads.

But before the proposed sixth branch of the military is formed, Congress needs to approve legislation and the Department of Defense would have to iron out the fine details, according to a Monday afternoon statement from Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White.
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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2018, 05:04:26 am »
Some interesting points raised here.

Trump: ‘We are going to have the Space Force’

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Trump can order the Pentagon to create a Space Force but only Congress can make it happen.

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President Trump on Monday threw a wrench into the Pentagon’s carefully laid out plans to analyze how best to reorganize the military’s space forces. In remarks kicking off a meeting of the National Space Council, Trump pointedly directed the Pentagon to create a Space Force as a “separate but equal” branch of the U.S. military.

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According to sources, Trump’s remarks were not off-the-cuff. He had planned to make this announcement weeks ago, and Pentagon officials had been advised the president would be directing the creation of a Space Force at the June 18 National Space Council meeting. Trump mentioned his desire to have a Space Force at four different events in recent months, and the feedback he received was mostly positive, which motivated him to get the process started sooner rather than later.

http://spacenews.com/trump-we-are-going-to-have-the-space-force/

Wait, you're saying Trump didn't just make it up on the spot?  Some people are going to be so disappointed.
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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2018, 07:09:31 am »
Who was claiming he made it up yesterday? He's brought it up frequently in the past, it's been covered decently every time. The sudden thing yesterday was that, after over a year of the existing DoD leadership all saying "don't do this, it's wasteful and without a comprehensive plan coordinated with Congress will produce a half-assed result" he did it anyway.

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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 07:13:50 am »
Who was claiming he made it up yesterday? He's brought it up frequently in the past, it's been covered decently every time. The sudden thing yesterday was that, after over a year of the existing DoD leadership all saying "don't do this, it's wasteful and without a comprehensive plan coordinated with Congress will produce a half-assed result" he did it anyway.

"Trump mentioned his desire to have a Space Force at four different events in recent months, and the feedback he received was mostly positive, which motivated him to get the process started sooner rather than later."

Also most outlets are treating this as if he just thought of it yesterday. 
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Re: The US Space Force
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 07:48:20 am »
Also most outlets are treating this as if he just thought of it yesterday.
A revision of your choice in news sources might be appropriate.