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6th generation fighter concepts
« on: May 28, 2016, 06:54:21 am »
Hi everyone, thanks to Rodrigo Avella designs,posted here in the forum,which inspired me,i decided to make some drawings using "paint",i used Rodrigo designs as a base and made some modifications to them,the end result is not perfect,but they turned out ok,i hope you like it.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 02:04:51 am »
Nice  :)

I see a hint of the LRS studies by various companies.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2016, 08:13:29 am »
Thanks Anderman,hereīs another drawing,based on Rodrigo Avella Esav design,and Boeing Fa-xx.



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2016, 07:21:42 am »
Another drawing based on Rodrigo Esav design.



and another based on Rodrigo 6th generation fighter,and GF-44Phantom F-73A.



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 06:10:28 pm »
Bravo! Great renditions. I'd love to see what your take on Northrop Grumman's F/A-XX NGAD looks like.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2016, 08:47:43 pm »
Interesting mashups pedrospe! Especially with my F-73A design. Here's the original design if anyone is interested: http://gf-44phantom.deviantart.com/art/F-73A-Revenant-422998638 

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2016, 06:54:32 am »
Thanks a lot Rafael and Raptor_101,your F-73 looked fantastic that is why i thought it would look great ,on Rodrigo 6th generation fighter,i'm working on another drawing using your F-73  wings and rudders ,on Rodrigo Esav,and i have some more cool concepts that will post soon.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 06:31:35 am »
This my vision of Northrop Fa-xx, based on Rodrigo Avella 6th generation fighter.




... and another drawing using Rodrigo Avella Esav design and Raptor-101(GF-44 Phantom), F-73A.





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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2016, 09:11:25 am »
Hi everyone here it is another drawing,based on Rodrigo 6th generation fighter design,this time i modified to resemble Northrop multi role fighter concept ,and the last one based on Rodrigo J-50, is an advanced vtol aircraft using two lift fans on the wings like the Lockheed Martin ucav Various,hope you like them.






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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2016, 07:48:31 am »
Hereīs another drawing i modified on paint,using Rodrigo Avella Esav as a base,and adding the wings and canards of the J-20w Concept.





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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2016, 11:14:18 am »
A while back I did a doodle of a stealth English Electric Lightning for the fun of it...

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 07:00:12 am »
Hi everyone,this is another set of drawings for possible future fighter concepts,the first one was based on Aerobat Skyblade + Rodrigo Esav design cockpit;



...the second one was based on Northrop Xmas fighter and Rodrigo Avella J-50 design;



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2016, 07:30:40 am »
Hi everyone hereīs another discwing aircraft concept,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50,




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2016, 07:47:54 am »
Hi everyone hereīs a drawing of a boxwing 6th generation stealth aircraft,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2016, 08:11:01 am »
Hi everyone,these are two new drawings i made,the first one is a sixth generation fighter based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;


the second one is a sixth generation fighter with variable geometry wings,based on Rodrigo Avella Esav and the USAF TFX program;


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2016, 09:04:36 am »
Nice Art work, pedrospe
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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2016, 10:50:12 am »
I love your art! Which software do you use to make it with?

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2016, 10:08:44 am »
Thanks Michel Van and Malipa,sorry for the late reply,i use MS Paint and Photoshop to make the modifications to Rodrigo Avella original designs,they are very "simple programs" but i can make some good drawings with them.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2016, 10:40:08 am »
This is another drawing made on MS Paint, using Rodrigo Avella J-50 as a base,this is a swing wing stealth fighter aircraft...



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2016, 07:16:56 am »
This is another one of my new drawings,an oblique flying wing stealth aircraft,based on Rodrigo Avella multirole fighter concept;



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2016, 09:10:50 am »
Hi everyone,i was surfing the web a few days ago,and found this image on,"the greatest planes that never were" site on facebook,this was a Northrop concept for the AX program,of the U.S. Navy, to replace the cancelled A-12,

Northrop concept,




my profile drawing,using Rodrigo Avella ESAV design,




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2017, 06:34:30 am »
6th generation boxwing fighter aircraft,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;

PSA-152




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2017, 08:15:24 am »
6th generation naval stealth strike/fighter ,with forward swept wings,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;

PSA-157
 


6th generation stealth strike aircraft, with variable geometry wings,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;

PSA-146




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2017, 07:35:46 am »
6th generation russian fighter concept, based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;

PSA-164



PSA-157 update


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2017, 10:01:47 am »
Nice work! Here is another Northrop AX/AFX proposal for your inspiation  ;)

BR Michael

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2017, 06:49:15 am »
Thanks alot VTOLicious.


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2017, 08:29:06 am »
Two new drawings,the first one is based on Rodrigo Avella Esav design and Northrop AX/AF-X proposal posted above by VTOLicious,my version of this concept is not perfect,but this was the best i could do;

PSA-167



the second is based on Rodrigo Avella multirole fighter,and is a concept of a multirole fighter, for the program of the 90īs created to replace the F-16,and later cancelled;

PSA-168



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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2017, 09:53:38 am »
Hereīs another advanced stealth naval strike fighter,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50 and Avpro Foas;

PSA-158




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2017, 09:43:58 am »
Hi everyone,this is a version of Boeing MRF-24X,based on Rodrigo Avella multi role fighter;

PSA-169




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2017, 09:50:33 am »
Amazing work Pedrospe.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2017, 09:52:48 am »
Thanks alot hesham.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2017, 12:45:35 pm »
Pedrospe, your illustrations (and the links to them) no longer appear on SPF.  You need to go back to Photobucket and add the SPF URL as an authorized target for your images.  This is a new rule they have for everybody.  They are not charging yet, but I suspect that's where it's headed.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2017, 10:21:40 am »
Hi circle 5,they want me to pay up about 300 € a year,and i think that is a pure robbery,so iam trying to upload some of my images to a new hosting site like imgur,but that will take time, my new drawings will be uploaded to imgur,and i hope this time will be free of charge.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2017, 07:40:44 am »
Hi everyone,this are some of my new drawings,this time posted on Imgur,the first one is based on Rodrigo Avella multirole fighter and Boeing MRF-24X;

PSA-169



the next concept is based on Rodrigo Avella Esav and Tophe ideia for an assimetric fighter

PSA-174



and the last one,is a concept for a advanced tailess fighter based on Rodrigo Avella J-50

PSA-166


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2017, 10:32:00 am »
Hi everyone,here are some new of my drawings;the first one is based on lockheed martin 6th generation fighter and Rodrigo Avella Esav design;

PSA-172



« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 02:33:21 am by pedrospe »

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2017, 10:44:54 am »
Sorry guys,the image came out too big on my last post,now for the second drawing,this one is based on Lockheed Martin ICE program and Rodrigo Avella Esav design

PSA-172 resized



PSA-178


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2017, 09:00:52 am »
Hi everyone,here are some new drawings,

This one was made using Rodrigo Avella Esav design and Spinners A-25 model;

PSA-143



this one was made using Rodrigo Avella J-50,and a boxwing fighter idea;

PSA-152



and the last one was made using Rodrigo Avella new J-50 design;

PSA-182






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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2017, 12:01:48 am »
Is there some reason you object to attaching images to the posts directly? I can promise I won't block them or demand money :)
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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2017, 08:29:02 am »
Hi Paul,sorry but i thought i had to use a hosting site for my images,and post them from that hosting site,with photobucket as you know,my images were blocked,so i had to upload them again on imgur,next time if it is ok,i will try to post new images directly,thanks.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2017, 07:58:12 am »
Hi everyone,this are revised versions of Northrop AX-AF/X concepts,made using Rodrigo Avella Esave design and Northrop concepts seen here in the forum;

PSA-167



PSA-153


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2017, 08:22:15 am »
Shape, position and span of the canards doesn't look effective.

The -143 look cool at least.


Here are some ideas for 6th gen, assuming a fusion of radar stealth with extensive electronic countermeasures:

- fully movable wingtips as on Su-50 instead of ailerons
- no vertical tail with "2D" TVC
- two engines, but not terribly large ones
- rotating front section with cockpit. Reasoning:
       Rotation allows for having a large mission package bay + basic air combat missile load bays + engine air inlets on the upside hidden from most radars while flying at 60-70 k ft altitude
       opposite is necessary for + 9-11 g manoeuvres (mostly evasive manoeuvres) and munition release
- keep areas for sensors: IR/UV missile approach sensors (~DAS), tail radar with rotating AESA antenna (Su-3x-like)
- retractable IRST
- retractable DIRCM laser (same side as bomb bay, air inlets)
- F-22-like nose section + really large delta wing

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2017, 07:08:50 am »
Hi lastdingo,sorry for the late replay,about the design,i used the original Northrop concept posted here in the forum to make my drawings,i know that the canard shape looks a bit odd,but it was based on the original Northrop design.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2017, 07:25:06 am »
This is another drawing,made by using Rodrigo Avella Esave design and Lockheed Martin X-44 concept

PSA-186



this one was made using Northrop Lap concept,posted here in the forum(i think the original illustration was made by Kurt Beswick,and Scott Lowther),my modification was to give it variable geometry wings and inlets above the fuselage;

PSB-137


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2017, 07:52:49 am »
Great work Pedrospe.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2017, 10:47:23 am »
Thanks alot hesham,sorry for the late replay.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2018, 07:09:29 am »
Hi everyone,happy new year,here are some more new drawings,the first one is a stealth strike fighter,with variable geometry wings,made using Rodrigo Avella J-50 as a base;

PSA-146A



and the second is a 6th generation fighter,made using Rodrigo Avella J-50 (new version) as a base

PSA-184


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2018, 06:43:01 am »
and the second is a 6th generation fighter,made using Rodrigo Avella J-50 (new version) as a base

PSA-184



Thanks for posting your artworks ... however one question concerning this J-50.

It has a Chinese designation, is armed with the PL-15 and the new PL-X but has USAF-markings????

Or am I wrong?

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2018, 07:58:51 am »
Hi Deino,i just used a design made by Rodrigo Avella as a base to make my drawings and in itīs original design Rodrigo uses chinese missiles and chinese markings and named is concept J-50,if you want to see Rodrigo original designs,just go to is deviantart page.


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2018, 01:32:25 pm »
Hi Deino,i just used a design made by Rodrigo Avella as a base to make my drawings and in itīs original design Rodrigo uses chinese missiles and chinese markings and named is concept J-50,if you want to see Rodrigo original designs,just go to is deviantart page.


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No, it was no critics, it's impressive, amazing ... I like it very much!

All I wondered is why it still has the USAF-markings on it and not the PLAAF-symbol?

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2018, 02:52:17 am »
Thanks Deino,just finished this new drawing of a 6th generation fighter based on Boeing F-X and Rodrigo Avella J-50 design,this time i added amraam missiles to the weapons bay,

PSA-196


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2018, 08:48:34 am »
Thanks Deino,just finished this new drawing of a 6th generation fighter based on Boeing F-X and Rodrigo Avella J-50 design,this time i added amraam missiles to the weapons bay,

PSA-196



Hi! This one is very coll and impressive. But wouldnīt it need a (vertical) tailfin?
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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2018, 12:00:14 pm »
No, that can be replaced by thrust vectoring.
Aerodynamically unstable aircraft really only need rudders anyway - not fins.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2018, 11:21:37 pm »
And you can use other surfaces ta yaw the aircraft, instead of conventional rudders.

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« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2018, 05:54:48 am »
Hi athpilot,if you remember the latest Boeing and Northrop concepts,for next generation fighters,they do not have a vertical tail,and use alternative means to control the aircraft,just look at the X-36,X-45,X-47 and the B-2 examples,none of them uses a conventional vertical tail,and yet the look very manoeuvrable.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2018, 06:51:55 am »
Hi everyone,this are two new 6th generation fighter drawings,they are both based on Rodrigo Avella J-50 and Goila Cristian future fighter concepts,

PSA-181



PSA-179


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2018, 07:07:04 am »
Russian 6th generation fighter concept,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;


PSA-164


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2018, 07:12:32 am »
...another view of PSA-184,with low observable weapons containers;

PSA-184 2


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2018, 07:49:51 am »
Hi everyone,i been working on this one for a while now,it is based on Rodrigo Avella J-50 and the Northrop Switch blade concept;

PSA-147




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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2018, 07:26:05 am »
Future jas-39 grippen replacement;


JAS-42 Flash


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2018, 07:34:38 am »
Look up the definition of radar corner reflector 'cause that is what that is.   :o

Remember that in the world of VLO, 90 degree angles are BAD NEWS and that thing is covered with them.
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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2018, 06:25:46 am »
Hi SpudmanWP,sorry for the late reply,but i don't agree with you,i was digging up some images on my computer,and find out that there were a few projects with 90 degree angles,on there design and were made by some big aerospace companies,just some examples;

A-12



ICE concept



new Boeing MQ-25




UCLASS concept




...and there are probably alot more,so my design is not as impossible as you think it is,and that is what it is...

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2018, 06:43:28 am »
Convex 90 degree angles aren't too much of an issue (ie 90 degree angles on wingtips), but concave 90 degree angles are corner reflectors - any light (or radio waves below a certain wavelength) that bounce off 2 surfaces at 90 degrees will reflect back to its source:


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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2018, 07:18:51 am »
Was that not part of the problem with the A-12?

The French FCAS UCAV design sports 90 wingtips too btw.

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« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2018, 07:25:22 am »
Thanks Dragon029 for the explanation.

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Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2018, 06:53:19 am »
Hi everyone,just finished two more new drawings;

this one is based on the F-22,but with forward swept wings;

PSA-204



this one was based on Rodrigo Avella multirole fighter and chinese darksword ucav;

PSA-206