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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2013, 04:51:15 pm »
Seen many exports of H-6's lately?

Exactly.
Push the envelope,watch it bend.

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2013, 08:29:49 am »
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130131/DEFREG03/301310016/China-8217-s-Future-Bomber-Requirements-Murky?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
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China’s Future Bomber Requirements Murky

China’s future bomber aircraft requirements appear murky as Western analysts — stuck with reading tea leaves in an opaque pond — battle over what it all means...

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2013, 09:22:54 am »
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130131/DEFREG03/301310016/China-8217-s-Future-Bomber-Requirements-Murky?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
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China’s Future Bomber Requirements Murky

China’s future bomber aircraft requirements appear murky as Western analysts — stuck with reading tea leaves in an opaque pond — battle over what it all means...

I don't know what to make of that article.
 
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Specifically, there are unconfirmed reports that China and Russia are working
on deals that include refurbished Tupolev Tu-22M3 Backfire long-range strategic
bombers and Sukhoi Su-34 fighter-bombers.

No.
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...is that China’s military is upgrading its Xian H-6 medium-range bomber, a
licensed variant of the Tu-16. The upgrade, known as the H-6K, includes a
re-engineered Russian NPO Saturn D-30KP turbofan engine, larger air intakes,
die-electric nose radome and a redesigned flight deck. The engines boost its
range to 3,500 kilometers and allow it to carry both land-attack cruise missiles
and anti-ship cruise missiles.
Range of 3500km?
They seem to be confusing range and radius of action.
The Tu-16 and H-6 already do twice this on the original turbojet engines.
The vanilla Tu-16 and H-6 could carry cruise-missiles decades ago, with the original engines.
 
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Dean Cheng, a China specialist at the Heritage Foundation, said that another
reason the Tu-22M3 would be of little interest to China is that the JH-7
fighter-bomber has characteristics and payload comparable to the Tu-22M3

Errr ....... what?
 
The article makes these points above, and also contradicts them at the same time.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 09:25:16 am by kaiserbill »

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2013, 09:32:49 am »
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China’s Future Bomber Requirements Murky

China’s future bomber aircraft requirements appear murky as Western analysts — stuck with reading tea leaves in an opaque pond — battle over what it all means...
I don't know what to make of that article.
Key word is "murky."

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2013, 09:41:13 am »
"Murky" is no excuse for muddying the water further.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 09:55:37 am by chuck4 »

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2013, 10:07:50 am »
"Murky" is no excuse for muddying the water further.
Do feel free to clear it up for everyone.

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2013, 10:13:22 am »
"Murky" is no excuse for muddying the water further.
Do feel free to clear it up for everyone.

There is no Backfire deal.    Now that is a little less murky - there will no supersonic theater strike capability from China for at least 10-15 years.
 
« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 10:19:38 am by chuck4 »

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2013, 11:28:15 am »
"Murky" is no excuse for muddying the water further.
Do feel free to clear it up for everyone.

There is no Backfire deal.    Now that is a little less murky - there will no supersonic theater strike capability from China for at least 10-15 years.
Wow, you must have read a whole paragraph of the article (Backfire is only briefly mentioned).

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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2013, 11:51:07 am »
"Murky" is no excuse for muddying the water further.
Do feel free to clear it up for everyone.

There is no Backfire deal.    Now that is a little less murky - there will no supersonic theater strike capability from China for at least 10-15 years.
Wow, you must have read a whole paragraph of the article (Backfire is only briefly mentioned).

 
You mean an article with gems like this actually has more insights to offer?
 
"JH-7 fighter-bomber has characteristics and payload comparable to the Tu-22M3 "
 
 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: China DOESN'T buy the Backfire...
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2013, 12:21:36 pm »
You mean an article with gems like this actually has more insights to offer?
 
"JH-7 fighter-bomber has characteristics and payload comparable to the Tu-22M3 "
 
 ;D ;D ;D
Like I said, briefly mentioned (that is quite a gem though, maybe he meant the super-duper stealthified JH-7 :P).