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Offline J.A.W.

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Re: Problems with British wartime high power piston engines
« Reply #210 on: May 15, 2014, 03:10:25 am »
You have provided a series of interesting personal perspectives. I have provided facts, I am not going to repeat them but suffice to say that actual operations and the number of available Tempest squadrons are facts and do prove you wrong. Unless of course you think that 16 Squadrons of Spitfires escorting the first Bomber Command daylight heavy bomber raid against Germany since 1941 on 27th August 1944 is irrelevant?

That you are now resorting to insults rather than simply admitting that a fighter type that equipped a peak of just ten squadrons during the war and was only available operationally for less than a year of it was a relatively minor player in the grand scheme of things.


FYI - JFCF, since it appears you wish to take this debate into personality issues , rather than stay on topic,
 It will serve no purpose to respond any further - to your repetitive, non-data backed opinion-based posts..
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Re: Problems with British wartime high power piston engines
« Reply #211 on: May 15, 2014, 03:14:11 am »
To get back to the topic at hand; So it can be argued that the focus (especially in terms of resources concentrated) on the Merlin family was ultimately detrimental to British engine development including work in the higher power brackets, hampering in turn the British war effort, not to mention the post-war era? With regards to what happened to the Vulture, you could argue that the Merlin was needed, but canning the Vulture altogether meant that a number of badly needed types had to be cancelled/were delayed/did not meet requirements, again with a detrimental effect on the war effort, which arguably became all too evident with the Fall of France and it's aftermath.

Complete and utter nonsense of the highest order that suggests you have not even bothered to read the thread.

The post war era was defined by jets- piston decisions not really relevant ultimately.

The only type affected by Vulture cancellation was the Tornado- the Manchester failed because it was too heavy for the HP that could come from a twin engine powerplant in this era.

Merlin development allowed over 14,500 Hurricanes, 20,000 spitfires, 15,000 Mustangs, over 7000 Mosquitos and 7,300 Lancasters to be built and used to equip the vast bulk of the RAF forces deployed against Germany from the outbreak of war to its close when it was still powering new types (such as the Lincoln and Hornet). By contrast the Sabre, having only been able to become operational over two and a half years after the start of the war, powered a measly 3,300 Typhoons (which were only useful at low altitude so were turned into attack aircraft) and barely 950 Tempests- the bulk of which saw little if any wartime service.

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Re: Problems with British wartime high power piston engines
« Reply #212 on: May 15, 2014, 03:18:29 am »
FYI - JFCF, since it appears you wish to take this debate into personality issues , rather than stay on topic,
 It will serve no purpose to respond any further - to your repetitive, non-data backed opinion-based posts..

Please explain how pointing out that the Tempest was only available in a maximum of ten squadrons and only available at all during the last 11 months of the war (yes, that is "data") is taking the discussion into "personality issues"...?

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Re: Problems with British wartime high power piston engines
« Reply #213 on: May 15, 2014, 03:20:47 am »
Thanks for destroying this topic, guys.
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