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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2007, 12:07:19 pm »
Hesham,
I only find a 3V of the SNCAC NC-1080 naval fighter prototype. But unfortunatly nothing on the NC-1090.
So just in case.

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2007, 09:14:48 am »


   Thank you Retrofit.

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 01:44:42 pm »
Hello, would anyone be able to recommend a source for images of the S.N.C.A.C NC.110 at all? I've always wondered what this design would have looked like (the Farman/S.N.C.A.C NC.223 series are a personal favourite). I agree with Apophenia that a mélange of NC.223.4 and NC.150 is easy to visualise, but an image would be wonderful to see. I wonder if I can modify one of my Azur 1/72 Farman 223 kits to make a NC.110?

For the striking Bréguet Br.482, I recommend Le Fana de l'Aviation, No. 339; February 1998. Pages 14 to 23 by Philippe Ricco & Jean Lacroze.

For the more awkward looking S.N.C.A.O CAO-700, I recommend.........

Air Magazine, No. 34; October/November 2006. Pages 4 to 11 by José Fernandez; with a 4-view colour profile (this French publisher has also co-produced a spectacular, but expensive 1/72 resin kit of the CAO-700).
Aéro Journal, No. 17; February/March 2001. Pages 38 to 43, by Philippe Ricco.

The CAO-700 is derived from the wonderfully outlandish Loire-Nieuport LN.10 seaplane; surely deserving of a new thread?
http://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=1074&ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=837

All best wishes, Terry, (Caravellarella).
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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 06:00:03 pm »
Hello, would anyone be able to recommend a source for images of the S.N.C.A.C NC.110 at all?

As Jemiba mentioned earlier, there was am NC-110 piece in the Aug./Sept. 2005 edition of Aviation Francais Magazine.

AFM n°5 (Août/Septembre 2005), p37 (SNCAC NC-110 monograph by Philippe Ricco).

I started work on an NC-110 image but, par for the course, got sidetracked ...  :P



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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2007, 03:01:10 am »
My apologies Apophenia; my confusion, my typo. I really should have typed S.N.C.A.C NC.140 instead. An image of the NC.140 would be wonderful to see; it does make me wonder how Aérocentre/Farman would have reconciled a braced high wing and the tandem-engine nacelles to a circular-section fuselage. Do you suppose the NC.140's pressure cabin was otherwise just pressure vessel embedded in a conventional fuselage? The same way Vickers did with their high altitude Wellington bomber?

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2007, 08:47:30 pm »
No worries Terry! Having already made my apologies for confusing the NC 140 for the NC 110, I'm in no position to comment  :-[

As for the appearance of the NC 140, Green makes it sound like the entire, circular-section fuselage was pressurized. Pure speculation, but I'm envisioning something like an NC 223.4 with an elongated NC 150 fuselage. That's probably simplistic ... the NC 150's single-pilot cockpit would have to go at the very least.

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2010, 06:41:23 am »
Hi,

here is some pictures and drawings to SNCAC NC.150 bomber.

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2010, 07:49:32 am »
Hi Hesham.
Interesting the NC 150.
First flight may 11.1939 2 Hispano engines +1 inside the fuselage for the
compressor
November 19.1939 new compressor and new flight- new tail (flight 32)
7000 meters hight- speed 470 km/h
january 2 1939 from Toussus le Noble to Orleans
March :  Orleans- Marignane- Bourges : new engines.
proto n° 2 18 cm longer.   (Bon de guerre if finished)
NC 151 hight altitude cabin
NC 152 and 153 perhaps pratt and whiney engines
We are in june 1940..............
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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2011, 04:09:27 pm »
No worries Terry! Having already made my apologies for confusing the NC 140 for the NC 110, I'm in no position to comment  :-[

As for the appearance of the NC 140, Green makes it sound like the entire, circular-section fuselage was pressurized. Pure speculation, but I'm envisioning something like an NC 223.4 with an elongated NC 150 fuselage. That's probably simplistic ... the NC 150's single-pilot cockpit would have to go at the very least.

Dear Apophenia, you are not going to believe this! I've just found an article in French with a 3-view drawing of the SNCAC NC.140 stratospheric bomber in the 15th September 1965 issue of Aviation Magazine International. I had to look twice as I couldn't quite believe what I saw. As you suspected, the NC.140 is a blend of the NC.223.4 and the NC.150, but with a massively blended wing-root fairing and a small pressure-vessel type cockpit fairing......

Enjoy ;D......

Terry (Caravellarella)
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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2011, 02:43:27 pm »
NC.140 it's new for me !
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Interesting project !  :)
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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2012, 06:49:43 am »
always about sncac 110
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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2012, 04:07:18 pm »
always about sncac 110


In your PDF Airman;


I find the SNCAC NC.100,what was this ?.

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2012, 07:53:40 pm »
Airman's link says "among unknown ones, nobody seems to remember what was the NC-100 looking like". So this remains a mystery, even for experts.

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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2012, 06:19:00 am »
Airman's link says "among unknown ones, nobody seems to remember what was the NC-100 looking like". So this remains a mystery, even for experts.
It's Sncac 110  ::)
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Re: SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2012, 02:54:26 pm »
Thank you my dear Tophe.