By domestic, does he mean Ukrainian engines built in Turkey or clean sheet engines developed in Turkey ?

It will initially use Ukrainian AI-322 5,500 lbf dry thrust engines, after four years for domestic production Turkey will switch to using their own. Was originally supposed to be the TEI TF-6000 6,000 lbf dry thrust engine for domestic production but now Baykar are claiming the company will develop its own Turbofan engine in-house rather than using TEI. (so thats probably why it will take four years to get a domestic engine)
 
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It seems Baykar is seriously developing an in-house engine for Kizilelma. It seems they want to use their own products for all of their drones, including the TB-2.
Makes sense. Lots harder to have sales blocked when the only internals are Turkish. And you make more money when the same conglomerate owns all the companies making all the bits.
 
Makes sense. Lots harder to have sales blocked when the only internals are Turkish. And you make more money when the same conglomerate owns all the companies making all the bits.
The point I'm making here is that they still have the TEI TF6000/10000 option, but they're pursuing an in-house engine development nevertheless. The same situation also applies to TB-2 as well, the OEMs that can develop subcomponents for these are literally dime a dozen in Turkey yet Baykar chooses to develop missiles, gimbals and engines by themselves (to increase the profits as you've said??).

https://turdef.com/article/tei-runs-tf6000-turbofan-engine-for-the-first-time

Mind you, these people recently got into the LEO constellation business as well... This just shows you the scope of their ambitions...

https://www.linkedin.com/company/ferganispace/
 
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I don't think licensing Ukranian engines and producing them would take 4 years when the plant is almost ready, thus it should be a brand new, in-house engine design.

Interesting, so the BM-100 engine they've developed for the TB2 is almost ready for serial production. With 20 engines expected to be produced by years end. It'll be interesting to see what they've come up with...
 
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They seem to have carried out a substantial redesign, P3 looks more refined and "elegant" in comparison to the P1 below:


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Is this really the first purpose built (i.e. excluding converted target aircraft or D-21 + WZ-8), supersonic capable LW drone that has emerged?
 

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