European UGV/UGCVs (unmanned ground combat/vehicles)

https://twitter.com/x/status/2066916074646642802
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https://www.avinc.com/solution/tom-50-re/
TOM 50 RE is engineered to provide immediate robotic capability at the tactical edge without adding a logistical burden. Weighing less than 10kg, this backpackable uncrewed ground vehicle is purpose-built for single-operator transport, allowing dismounted units and special operations forces to maintain high mobility in complex, contested environments.
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Ukraine’s unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) manufacturer Trinity Robotics plans to double its production to some 2,200 units this year, benefiting from the rapidly rising use of ground robots in the Ukrainian Army’s operations.
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In its standard version, Konyk One weighs 460 kg (1,014 lb) and has a load capacity of up to 300 kg, according to data from the producer.
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Given massive head start Milrem so far turned out to be a dud ,Themis was around since 2015 ,built to nato specs, purchased and used by multiple NATO member states , but when it comes to free for all that is Ukraine ,everyone gets paid no mater the stuff the supply , crickets ,Themis used in tiny numbers indicating it has been a massive failure
 
Mr.T said:
Given massive head start Milrem so far turned out to be a dud ,Themis was around since 2015 ,built to nato specs, purchased and used by multiple NATO member states , but when it comes to free for all that is Ukraine ,everyone gets paid no mater the stuff the supply , crickets ,Themis used in tiny numbers indicating it has been a massive failure
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UGVs tend to sell more as conversion kits than as dedicated solutions.
 
Hmmm.................. no EU is paying anyone who can deliver , its up to Ukraine to chose what to pick within budget ,,sometimes is as simple as do you want a Themis for 300-400kEur a pop or something a dude welded up in his garage with parts from aliExpress for 5k and is willing to sell for bargain prince of 60k Eur for only 30k Extra he is willing to mount a machine gun sleeved to a an unstabilised Chinese drive and cheap surveillance camera while Milrem wants 250k Eur for a proper machine gun turret with day ,night ,thermal optics and a 5000m range finder .UGV will likely survive one to three trips before its toast.
 
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Mr.T said:
Hmmm.................. no EU is paying anyone who can deliver , its up to Ukraine to chose what to pick within budget ,,sometimes is as simple as do you want a Themis for 300-400kEur a pop or something a dude welded up in his garage with parts from aliExpress for 5k and is willing to sell for bargain prince of 60k Eur for only 30k Extra he is willing to mount a machine gun sleeved to a an unstabilised Chinese drive and cheap surveillance camera while Milrem wants 250k Eur for a proper machine gun turret with day ,night ,thermal optics and a 5000m range finder .UGV will likely survive one to three trips before its toast.
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Themis is a dedicated solution. UGV requirements vary drastically based on a lot of parameters.
So platform-agnostic kits sell better.
 
Mr.T said:
Color me sceptical , as for robotisation ,more than anything you need automatic gearboxes and power steering , none of which are on BRDM2
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My personal solution is to just throw in a unitree (robot) with a starlink, and its done, for all vehicles.

*vibecoded the controls mileage may very~*

Frankly bespoke solutions for land vehicles is stupid when state subsidized mass production is just...there.
 

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