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[jeffb]

Yeah, I've already commented previously but this is the exact same language from the previous CRS report:

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/replacement-of-australias-collins-class-submarines.22752/post-876632

It's just ragebait, apparently the anti-AUKUS crowd isn't big on reading and needs the freakin Guardian to read things for them.

All you can do is shrug and let them seethe, they don't know what they're talking about.

Yes and no. There's still no increase in the US Navy's submarine build rate or repair/maintenance 'rate', even for existing types and new classes are making increased demands on resources. If the US Navy is serious about the numbers of operational boats they want by 2050, somethings gotta give.

Ditto for the UK's submarine manufacturing pipeline.

I suspect we'll find, as the years slide by and build rates continue to languish, that those other options will start moving towards the front of the briefings.

 

[tychosis]

If the US Navy is serious about the numbers of operational boats they want by 2050, somethings gotta give.

Yeah. I've been working on and around submarines for a quarter of a century and you aren't wrong there--every theater commander is like a petulant child who can't understand the difference between want and need. Instead of being more reasonable with tasking and learning to work with what they have (something every single navy in the world has to do) they will insist they need more boats. They'll never be happy.

(One of my biggest complaints is that it always seems like these projections are made with the assumption that the planets will align and nothing will ever go wrong--something that I've yet to see happen even once.)

Personally I'd much prefer we hand the hulls over. If that's the area of the world we're most concerned about, let someone else shoulder some of the load.

 

[Halcyon66]

40% of U.S. Navy Nuclear Attack Submarines Are Out of Service — Not Because of War, but Because America’s Shipyards Can’t Fix Them

40% of U.S. Navy Nuclear Attack Submarines Are Out of Service — Not Because of War, but Because America's Shipyards Can't Fix Them

About 40% of all U.S. Navy attack submarines are out of service due to maintenance delays, according to the U.S. Naval Institute. The Navy has only four public shipyards — all running on World War II-era infrastructure that hasn't been significantly updated in 80 years. The Congressional Budget...

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[Halcyon66]

40% of U.S. Attack Submarines Are Stuck in Port Waiting for Repairs — China Just Built 10 Nuclear Submarines in 4 Years

40% of U.S. Attack Submarines Are Stuck in Port Waiting for Repairs — China Just Built 10 Nuclear Submarines in 4 Years

China launched 10 nuclear submarines between 2021 and 2025, surpassing the U.S. production rate for the first time. Between 2022 and 2025, analysts assessed that 7 to 8 Type 093B attack submarines were built at Bohai Shipyard — exceeding the total number of nuclear attack submarines China...

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