Boeing F-47 NGAD future name guessing

Aubi said:
I for one hope that they would change the designation to something less stupid than F-47. Where they got that number, random number generator or it's just political? My pedantic soul cries for F-24/34 already... /rant over

Since it is meant as a succesor to F-22, the Raptor, a good name would be Predator. Too bad it's used for a drone. Nimrod would people not take seriously, but how about Venator? Sounds cool.

If the designation actually IS a homage to P-47, Thunderbolt III is an obvious choice.
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Personally I think F-26 would have been most appropriate and Voodoo II would be a good one.

But I am unfortunately expecting it to be the Golden Bolt
 
The F-47 Terminator, it will be back.
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"In the Year of Darkness, 2029, the rulers of this planet devised the ultimate plan. They would reshape the future by changing the past. The plan required something that felt no pity. No pain. No fear. Something unstoppable. They created the" F-47 Terminator.
 
My two cents: Wraith
It's etherical it's not supposed to be kill able. ;)
 
Felon? It is a term that isn't really used outside of the U.S. so would seem appropriate for an American aircraft... can't see why it'd be used for a NATO reporting name or anything like that? I mean, the implications of using it as a reporting name would have terrible optics.
 
I still cannot fathom how people can actually believe that the designation has anything to do with the 47th president of the US.
 
EmoBirb said:
I still cannot fathom how people can actually believe that the designation has anything to do with the 47th president of the US.
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"the number pays tribute to the founding year of our incredible @usairforce, while also recognizing the 47th @POTUS ’s pivotal support for the development of the world’s FIRST sixth-generation fighter"

General David Allvin, CSAF
 
DWG said:
"the number pays tribute to the founding year of our incredible @usairforce, while also recognizing the 47th @POTUS ’s pivotal support for the development of the world’s FIRST sixth-generation fighter"

General David Allvin, CSAF
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I'd also look retroactively for some stuff to throw to the public to rationalize going from 35 to 47.

And the F-22 recognizes the efforts of the 22nd POTUS, and the F-35 of the 35th, and the C-130 of the 130th. It's clear as day, isn't it? Makes all perfect sense. Although I find it a bit silly that they named SSBN-826 after the 826th president, that guy really sucked.

In reality, especially looking at the CCAs, it seems like the 40s sequence just materialized with the current developments. That the F-47 happened to align with the presidency of the 47th President was most likely a coincidence which can now be sold to the public as some gesture of respect. That thing was probably going to be called F-47 when Biden was still the 46th president.

Also if I was Obama I'd be pissed I just got some CCA rather than NGAD, duh
 
If you want to keep your job in the current US climate, then you better start sucking up to the guy in charge.
That guy really wanted to keep his job, so he kissed the ring and fell in line like a good soldier.
But we are going off-topic again...
 
EmoBirb said:
I'd also look retroactively for some stuff to throw to the public to rationalize going from 35 to 47.

And the F-22 recognizes the efforts of the 22nd POTUS, and the F-35 of the 35th, and the C-130 of the 130th. It's clear as day, isn't it? Makes all perfect sense. Although I find it a bit silly that they named SSBN-826 after the 826th president, that guy really sucked.

In reality, especially looking at the CCAs, it seems like the 40s sequence just materialized with the current developments. That the F-47 happened to align with the presidency of the 47th President was most likely a coincidence which can now be sold to the public as some gesture of respect. That thing was probably going to be called F-47 when Biden was still the 46th president.

Also if I was Obama I'd be pissed I just got some CCA rather than NGAD, duh
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There is no 40s sequence.
 
Aubi said:
There is no 40s sequence.
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So YFQ-42, YFQ-44 and F-47 (all heavily linked with each other under the overarching NGAD/Next-Gen framework) are just a coincidence? I doubt it. I won't be surprised if F/A-XX will end up as F/A-45 or F/A-46.
 
EmoBirb said:
So YFQ-42, YFQ-44 and F-47 (all heavily linked with each other under the overarching NGAD/Next-Gen framework) are just a coincidence? I doubt it. I won't be surprised if F/A-XX will end up as F/A-45 or F/A-46.
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Again, those are two separate series.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Again, those are two separate series.
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You mean how F and A designations used to be separate until they weren't? I definitely believe that the CCA, NGAD and Navy NGAD are grouped together with regards to their designation. After all the CCAs are intended to be fighters just as much drones :v
 
Logic has left the building long ago Opportunism rules concerning US military aircraft designations. They are assigned on a whim. If that helps the assigner's career, so much the better.
 
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Aubi said:
Felon is a NATO reporting name for SU-57 for soem time already.

Also. F-47 Felon... Somebody might take that personally.
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Yes and yes I suppose.

It is partly an underhanded way of complaining about it being a NATO reporting name. To use a term which is only used by one country makes the alliance feel less like an alliance of equals. To use a term derived from the criminal law of that country makes it seem like that country is seeing itself as the 'policeman' of the world (extending its internal laws to impose them on other countries and subordinating members of the alliance as an extension of its own policing)...

IMHO, for small members of the alliance who want to think of themselves as somewhat independent and equal... the optics are terrible.
 
I suspect something uncreative like Eagle III might be the pick. The P-47 accomplished a lot, but its record is much more mixed compared to aircraft like the Mustang and Spitfire... providing range but having trouble surviving one on one fights against peer opponents. F-38 would've invoked a long range aircraft suited to the Pacific. F-51 would've evoked the aircraft that is the subject of the famous quote about "Mustangs over Berlin". It might have been interesting if they did a numbering reset and called it the F-1 or the D-1 or something... a lot of interesting possibilities if the designation is going to be so fluid.

Anyway, my preference would be to let it enter service and let the aircrews name it... although you might get something like 'angry duck'... so maybe not that wise a choice.

I shouldn't be allowed to choose either - I'd probably go with 'Zanonia' (for obvious reasons).
 
I'm afraid that Hoplite was already taken any more and it would just get confusing, but I like the sound of Vanquisher as a proposal for the F-47.
 
Uuuuiiiuu said:
F-47 Longsword
FQ-44A Short Sword
B-21A Broadsword
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That would have been really cool, naming jets after weapons of ye olden days opens up many great opportunities. Dagger, Halberd, Javelin, Gladius, Flamberge, Claymore...
 
Scott Kenny said:
Voodoo II comes to mind, though that may have been the name Boeing used for their NGAD tech demonstrator.

Thunderbolt III is an option, referring back to the -47 series number. (It's not used often, but the A-10 is officially the Thunderbolt II)

I think Mustang II is out, due to Ford's car. The 1974-78 Mustang II was a warmed-over Pinto and is widely regarded as the worst thing to ever have the Mustang name. Plus we know car companies make legal objections about someone else using the name.

Spectre might be fun. That was proposed for the F-110's name, before the unified MDS took over and the F4H became F-4 Phantom II to everyone.

If the F-47 really is as maneuverable as the F-22, then Saber II would be an excellent name.

Or we go really big.

Valkyrie. Chooser of the slain.
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I heard someone propose the name “Thunderstorm”.
 

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