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Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« on: September 14, 2009, 01:31:48 am »
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About the Book

Dan Raymer, noted aircraft designer and author of the industry standard textbook Aircraft Design: A Conceptual Approach, has written a non-technical book that will be treasured by everyone who loves airplanes, wonders how they get designed, and wants to know how somebody becomes an aircraft designer.

Half the book is Raymerís warm and personal memoir of growing up in the 50ís and 60ís as the son of a Navy Test Pilot, discovering his own love of aviation, and entering the rarefied club of those who stare at a blank sheet of paper and turn it into a new aircraft or spacecraft design. The other half covers Raymerís early involvement in the projects that became the B-2, F-22, T-45, F-35, and many more.

The book is an ďeasyĒ read, quick-paced, funny, and aimed at a general audience. Raymer includes his mistakes, disappointments, and downright stupid decisions. Itís not all airplanes either Ė read about Raymerís aborted musical career, his misadventures in exotic destinations like Belarus, Turkey, and Bulgaria, how he got on the Internet early enough to grab www.aircraftdesign.com, and how he came to write his design textbook.

The book is in paperback and is due out this fall from Design Dimension Press (Los Angeles, CA).

http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/10349.htm

Interesting! That looks like a Rockwell ATF model he's holding.
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 10:00:20 am »
I was told this would be tentatively done in the same style as Jan Roskam's "War stories", another very interesting book, which lists anecdotes of his lifelong involvement in aircraft design.
http://www.amazon.com/Roskams-Airplane-War-Stories-Professional/dp/1884885578/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252947515&sr=1-1


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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 10:34:17 am »
On his website http://www.aircraftdesign.com/acpix.html, Raymer states that the original Rockwell ATF baseline was his design.

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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 02:24:14 pm »
>Interesting! That looks like a Rockwell ATF model he's holding.

Yes, a black and white version of the same photo is also in the latest edition of his design book.

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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 07:03:42 pm »
I got a copy today. Long-form review in a few days, short form review below:



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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 12:46:31 pm »
OK, it's been more than a few days, but I've posted by full review here:

http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=5322

The short form: if you are at all interested in designing aircraft, the design of aircraft, the wacky hijinks that go on when people design aircraft, or just a good read... *buy* *it.*
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 03:37:33 pm »
ordered my copy on Dec.28...still waiting...
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 12:39:28 am »
it has arrived! whoa! many new stuff, many old mysteries are solved and puzzles got their clues
you will be sorry if you not get your copy
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 10:59:24 am »
I'm going to order tonight ;)

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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 09:01:00 pm »
Very good and interesting book.  Just about done with it.  So. . .I wonder what Rockwell's final ATF entry looked like.  ???
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 12:35:07 am »
Got my copy today. Great read so far.
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2010, 10:29:10 am »
A very good book.

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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2010, 06:47:15 am »
I'm reading it from chapters 12 to 27 and I found a it fascinating book. Highly recommended for serious aerospace amateur. You can know from the designer itself how an aircraft born from idea to hardware with real examples from Mr Raymer work at Rockwell. The manufacturer receives an order and there is a process to offer the best solution to fulfill the customer's needs, often in competence with other manufacturers. I've learnt that powerful simulation software is used even to simulate war scenarios to choose the optimal design. Working on warplanes sometimes you also depend on parallel developments from other companies (weapons, sensors...) to make your design succesful. I love the book.

I found very interesting when Dan Raymer describes some examples of designer expectations for their designs that later proved to be wrong. That made me think about the Luft 46 hysteria. As much as I learn about aerospace I find Luft 46 mania still more funny.

Thanks a lot Mr Raymer for that great book.
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2010, 04:19:03 am »
Don't forget the first chapters as well. Worth a read.
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Re: Living in the Future - Dan Raymer autobiography
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2010, 06:24:09 am »
Anyone have this and can say if it's worth this price:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Aircraft-Design-Raymer-Daniel-P-9781563478291-
/380269361008?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item5889d1f770

Enjoy the Day! Mark
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