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I've just received a contract to produce a new book entitled LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary. My deadline is 1 March 2016. If anyone wishes to participate, please contact me via email: stevepace43@gmail.com

Giuseppe De Chiara will be providing three-views, Jozef Gatial and Landino Luca will be providing illustrations.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2015, 02:25:36 pm »
Great News my dear Steve,wish to you good luck.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2015, 02:33:41 pm »
I've just received a contract to produce a new book entitled LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary. My deadline is 1 March 2016. If anyone wishes to participate, please contact me via email: stevepace43@gmail.com

Giuseppe De Chiara will be providing three-views, Landino Luca will be providing illustrations.

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What will the format be?  Will it be similar to Jay Miller's "Skunk Works", with tons of info and footnotes, or more of a mainstream / coffee table type book? 
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2015, 02:41:39 pm »
I've just received a contract to produce a new book entitled LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary. My deadline is 1 March 2016. If anyone wishes to participate, please contact me via email: stevepace43@gmail.com

Giuseppe De Chiara will be providing three-views, Landino Luca will be providing illustrations.

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What will the format be?  Will it be similar to Jay Miller's "Skunk Works", with tons of info and footnotes, or more of a mainstream / coffee table type book?
I'll leave that up to the publisher - ZENITH BOOKS, but it requires 150,000 words of text and 500 captioned photographs.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2015, 02:42:48 pm »
Great News my dear Steve,wish to you good luck.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2015, 02:50:24 pm »
Good luck on this new book! Hope you can find enough new material to include as previous books on the subject have already said quite a bit.

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2015, 10:20:11 pm »
Good luck on this new book! Hope you can find enough new material to include as previous books on the subject have already said quite a bit.
Thank you! Yeah, me too - I produced one back in '92 for 50th Anniversary. A lot has changed since then. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2015, 06:23:56 am »
This sounds very exciting, Steve: with so interesting a topic, and your knowledge, and the incredible artwork of Giuseppe De Chiara, it will be irresistible.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2015, 07:36:19 am »
Dear Steve, great news and good luck!  :)

Will you be able or allowed to visit Lockheed Martin Skunk Works factory and their archive to gain new unseen materiel?  ;) :D



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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2015, 07:42:02 am »
This sounds very exciting, Steve: with so interesting a topic, and your knowledge, and the incredible artwork of Giuseppe De Chiara, it will be irresistible.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2015, 08:18:19 am »
Dear Steve, great news and good luck!  :)

Will you be able or allowed to visit Lockheed Martin Skunk Works factory and their archive to gain new unseen materiel?  ;) :D
Thanks so much - I'm working on that ;) -SP
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2015, 08:39:45 am »
Dear Steve, great news and good luck!  :)

Will you be able or allowed to visit Lockheed Martin Skunk Works factory and their archive to gain new unseen materiel?  ;) :D
Thanks so much - I'm working on that ;) -SP

If only new Suntan material would emerge... Oh, and CSIRS as well (though I don't raise my hopes too high on this one).

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2015, 09:37:55 am »
Dear Steve, great news and good luck!  :)

Will you be able or allowed to visit Lockheed Martin Skunk Works factory and their archive to gain new unseen materiel?  ;) :D
Thanks so much - I'm working on that ;) -SP

If only new Suntan material would emerge... Oh, and CSIRS as well (though I don't raise my hopes too high on this one).
I was told by an early Black Jet driver (in a phone conversation) that what became the F-117 was the original CSIRS aircraft but that its Recce mission was abandoned. He was Lt. Gen. David J. "Marshall" McCloud who flew numerous classified aircraft at Area 51. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2015, 10:15:48 am »
Clarification of that page in the pulped Putnam would be useful.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2015, 02:52:41 pm »

If only new Suntan material would emerge... Oh, and CSIRS as well (though I don't raise my hopes too high on this one).
I was told by an early Black Jet driver (in a phone conversation) that what became the F-117 was the original CSIRS aircraft but that its Recce mission was abandoned. He was Lt. Gen. David J. "Marshall" McCloud who flew numerous classified aircraft at Area 51. -SP

Thanks Steve. Someone else suggested exactly that in a recent CSIRS discussion on the forum, but what was missing was a circumstantial confirmation of that fact. Now thanks to this testimony we have a definite source for it.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2015, 07:06:28 pm »
More stuff on that big Mach 5 methane powered beast.  And the Mach 5 carrier based strike aircraft. In any case II'll be buying a copy :-)




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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2015, 12:32:09 am »
Fantastic news, best of luck. Sounds gorgeous already.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2015, 08:32:36 am »
Maybe you could find out about this external covering tested on the F-117 under the Senior Spud program and add it to the book.  reflects light in a strange way. Regards  Empire
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2015, 08:22:01 am »
Any thoughts about including the Senior Prom program?  The competitor to the Northrop B-2.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2015, 09:00:10 am »
Any thoughts about including the Senior Prom program?  The competitor to the Northrop B-2.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2015, 10:16:57 am »
There's also Lockheed's entry that lost to Northrop's in what became TSSAM.  Being quite familiar with TSSAM, I'd love to see Lockheed's approach to the requirements.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2015, 12:00:32 pm »
In this book most important part is not contract with Zenith Press, but contacts and ties at LM...
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2015, 04:13:50 pm »
In this book most important part is not contract with Zenith Press, but contacts and ties at LM...
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2015, 10:39:06 pm »
Steve - that's about how much help LM is ready to provide to you for the new book with their archives.
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2015, 01:18:02 am »
I'm honoured to have the chance to cooperate with Steve in so challenging book (even by graphical point of view).


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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2015, 06:02:14 am »
Steve,why not invite Dennis Jenkins to participate the project?

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2015, 07:27:47 am »
Steve,why not invite Dennis Jenkins to participate the project?
Nice thought but Dennis has his work to do, I have mine. -SP
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2015, 07:29:24 am »
Steve - that's about how much help LM is ready to provide to you for the new book with their archives.
I'm going through proper channels at LM and LMSW. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2015, 07:31:51 am »
I'm honoured to have the chance to cooperate with Steve in so challenging book (even by graphical point of view).


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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2015, 09:58:38 pm »
Will the L-133 come out?
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2015, 10:10:52 pm »
Will the L-133 come out?
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2015, 12:53:33 pm »
Update: This book is officially in the pipeline now as I've received a contract to produce it; my deadline is 1 March 2016. -SP
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2015, 01:33:06 pm »
Update: This book is officially in the pipeline now as I've received a contract to produce it; my deadline is 1 March 2016. -SP

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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2015, 01:40:33 pm »
Where's the like button so I can hit it???  ;)

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2015, 10:19:01 pm »
Thanks guys! Your comments give me more energy. -SP
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2015, 02:43:47 am »
So if the deadline is 1 March next year, that means a possible summer release,  I can't wait.

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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2015, 07:44:21 am »
So if the deadline is 1 March next year, that means a possible summer release,  I can't wait.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2015, 10:38:06 am »
Here's a teaser from the collection of beautiful artworks by Giuseppe De Chiara that will appear in the Skunk Works 75th Anniversary book. -SP
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« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2015, 12:32:31 pm »
Here's a teaser from the collection of beautiful artworks by Giuseppe De Chiara that will appear in the Skunk Works 75th Anniversary book. -SP


Thanks Steve!!!

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« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2015, 03:59:06 pm »
Will this book be strictly Lockheed Skunkworks, or will it include any of the competing designs from GD/Fort Worth(Super Hustler, FISH, Kingfish, etc.), since this is now part of the Lockheed/Martin heritage?

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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2015, 05:19:04 pm »
Of course, yes! Couldn't do it without with out them. -SP
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« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2015, 06:09:03 pm »
It just gets better. And better! Can't wait 😃

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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2015, 04:49:57 pm »
Will there be decent-sized drawings of the P-80D and P-80E proposals?  I'd love to get a drawing large enough to model those wings from.

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« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2015, 10:57:43 am »
Here's a Youtube video I found on the L-133.


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« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2015, 01:23:27 pm »
Cool video - seen it before though - Thanks for sharing. Here's a teaser drawing by Giuseppe De Chiara. -SP
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« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2015, 09:50:46 am »
Here's another teaser drawing by Luca Landino of an operational L-133 over Italy. -SP
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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2015, 09:55:59 am »
Another from Jozeph Gatial of A-1. -SP
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« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2015, 10:14:26 am »
These are absolutely amazing. True assets for your book.

Not that keen on Guiseppe de Chiara's three-views personally, not because of the art or the colors, which are always superb... but simply because of the rather crude way he does the light reflections: on the wings, for instance, it's always the same straight light bar halfway across the middle, but in actual lighting it wouldn't work that way at all. It makes it look like the wings are tubular. Or the way he did the light on the fin here makes it look like it's thicker and as if it suddenly became blunt towards the edges, while the taper is actually much progressive. This is only my opinion of course, not meant to be derogatory but meant as constructive criticism; I'm perfectly aware of how difficult lighting is, and that it's one of the most difficult things to master (I'm far from satisfied with it on my own works most of the time).

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2015, 12:01:31 am »
Jozef's Archangel is truly beautiful. When i look at his works i think i should just fold and take up knitting :D

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« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2015, 02:26:42 am »
Jozef's Archangel is truly beautiful. When i look at his works i think i should just fold and take up knitting :D

Now there's a concept... a Lockheed Archangel all made of wool... Pet plush aircraft for aviation buffs' kids... You're on to something, mate!  ;D ;D ;D

But seriously, it's always best not to think like that or we can never move ahead. There will always be people immensely more gifted than we are at what we do (whatever it is we do) and so instead just focus on how much progress you've made in the past ten years, that will boost your morale!!  ;)

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« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2015, 07:42:27 am »
I'm hoping that now Russia and China have a good understanding of stealth, the archives to the early manned test airframes are opened up a wee crack. Would love to know what that curved football shaped aircraft was.

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« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2015, 09:50:52 am »
Jozef's Archangel is truly beautiful. When i look at his works i think i should just fold and take up knitting :D

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2015, 01:25:41 am »
Talking about Archangels here it is a teaser from the Steve's book....


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« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2015, 05:51:29 am »
Wow - two very different takes by two amazing artists - I love both interpretations and I truly can't pick a favorite. Thank you both for sharing, and I can't wait for the book!

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« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2015, 09:04:37 am »
Another concept - a work in progress, from Luca Landino. -SP
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« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2015, 10:03:39 am »
Here's the current table of contents (subject to change) - input welcome. -SP

TABLE OF CONTENTS

DEDICATION
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
FORWARD
INTRODUCTION
01 – Origins: 1940 to 1944
Temporary Design Number L-133 and its Propulsive System
XP-80, XP-80A, YP-80A and the XP-80B: Birth of the Shooting Star
Founding Father: Genesis of the Skunk Works®
02 – 1945 to 1954
Saturn
“Racey”: The P-80R
T-Bird: The T-33
Starfire: The F-94
Penetration Fighter: The XF-90 and XF-90A
SeaStar: The T2V
XF-104: Birth of the Starfighter
Vertical Riser: The XFV-1 Salmon
Hercules: The YC-130
USAF Neptune: The RB-69A
03 – 1955 to 1964
YF-104A: Rise of the Starfighter
Area 51
AQUATONE: The U-2
Suntan
GUSTO: Archangel versus Fish/Kingfish
JetStar: The C-140
Corona
OXCART: The A-12
KEDLOCK: The YF-12A
TAGBOARD and Senior Bowl: The D-21, M-21 and the D-21B
Senior Crown: The SR-71 Blackbird
04 – 1965 to 1974
Improved Manned Interceptor: The F-12B
CL-1200: The Lancer
Project Harvey
05 – 1975 to 1984
Advanced Manned Strategic Aircraft
Have Blue: The Experimental Survivable Testbed Program
Hypersonic Research Vehicle: The X-24C
Senior Trend: The F-117
Senior Prom: Stealth Cruise Missile
Sea Shadow: Stealth atop the Waves
Senior Book: The TR-1
06 – 1985 to 1994
F-117N
Attack/Fighter Experimental
Advanced Tactical Fighter: The YF-22
07 – 1995 to 2004
DarkStar: The RQ-3A UAV
LightStar: The P-140 UAV
VentureStar: The X-33A Space Plane
Joint Strike Fighter: The X-35A, X-35B and X-35C
08 – 2005 to 2018 …and Beyond
Sentinel: The RQ-170 UAV
Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft: The X-55A
Polecat: The P-175 UAV
Hybrid Airship: The P-791
Multi-utility Aeroelastic Demonstrator: The X-56A
Unmanned Carrier-launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike
Rebirth of the Blackbird: The SR-72
High Speed Strike Weapon
Long Range Strike Bomber
Next Generation Air Dominance
CONCLUSIONS
GLOSSARY
APPENDICES
Appendix A: Timeline
Appendix B: Lockheed/Lockheed-California Temporary Design Numbers (associated with the Skunk Works®)
Appendix C: Lockheed Model Numbers (associated with the Skunk Works®) 
Appendix D: Known Skunk Works® P-numbers
BIBLIOGRAPHY
INDEX
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« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2015, 11:01:08 am »
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« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2015, 11:09:59 am »
Looking forward to information on Senior Prom since I worked on Northrop's "winning" competitor, AGM-137 TSSAM, that they then managed to mis-manage into termination.

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« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2015, 11:16:31 am »
Looking forward to information on Senior Prom since I worked on Northrop's "winning" competitor, AGM-137 TSSAM, that they then managed to mis-manage into termination.
Most interesting! I can't remember the code name for Northrop's AGM-137; Tacit something. -SP
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« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2015, 11:18:01 am »
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Thanks for sharing your brilliant artwork - love it! -SP
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« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2015, 11:25:35 am »
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Thanks for sharing your brilliant artwork - love it! -SP


I agree it's a real beauty, great job!!!!


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« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2015, 12:14:24 pm »
And here is motion blurred version. It was really hot flight. Because daily temperatures are now in Middle Europe 35-37 C CPU temperature was 76 C only 4 C under red limit

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« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2015, 12:48:44 pm »
And here is motion blurred version. It was really hot flight. Because daily temperatures are now in Middle Europe 35-37 C CPU temperature was 76 C only 4 C under red limit


I suppose that you live not so far from me, since I'm experiencing the same ultra-hot summer...(obviously my PC too).

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« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2015, 01:12:51 pm »
Can't wait to order this. Hope LM do allow you at least a peek at their archives.

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« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2015, 01:34:18 pm »
This looks like a great book, Steve. I look forward to it with great enthusiasm. However, i would love to see some data, history & good three-views of the Suntan program. Did i not see it listed? or is it not part of the topic?


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« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2015, 01:37:41 pm »
This looks like a great book, Steve. I look forward to it with great enthusiasm. However, i would love to see some data, history & good three-views of the Suntan program. Did i not see it listed? or is it not part of the topic?
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Suntan is forever

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« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2015, 02:25:19 pm »
So glad to see all this new artwork of yours, Josef!! And glad you show up on the forum nowadays!

Steve's book sounds like a really worthwhile addition to any library... I have of course the Jay Miller book but there's quite a substantial amount of new stuff in this new project that will make the purchase really worth the while I'm sure.

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« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2015, 02:38:14 pm »
So glad to see all this new artwork of yours, Josef!! And glad you show up on the forum nowadays!

Steve's book sounds like a really worthwhile addition to any library... I have of course the Jay Miller book but there's quite a substantial amount of new stuff in this new project that will make the purchase really worth the while I'm sure.
Thanks, Stephan - I wouldn't be surprised if Jay revised his book for the upcoming 75th Anniversary... -SP
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« Reply #71 on: August 14, 2015, 08:59:05 pm »
Steve,can you show us the cover design of your book?

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« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2015, 10:31:30 pm »
Steve,can you show us the cover design of your book?
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« Reply #73 on: August 15, 2015, 12:36:12 pm »
Looking forward to information on Senior Prom since I worked on Northrop's "winning" competitor, AGM-137 TSSAM, that they then managed to mis-manage into termination.
Most interesting! I can't remember the code name for Northrop's AGM-137; Tacit something. -SP

Can't remember exactly, but I remember reading about it in a book (name of book and author now forgotten) many years ago that it was Tacit Rainbow.

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« Reply #74 on: August 15, 2015, 01:16:09 pm »
Looking forward to information on Senior Prom since I worked on Northrop's "winning" competitor, AGM-137 TSSAM, that they then managed to mis-manage into termination.
Most interesting! I can't remember the code name for Northrop's AGM-137; Tacit something. -SP

Can't remember exactly, but I remember reading about it in a book (name of book and author now forgotten) many years ago that it was Tacit Rainbow.

This is Tacit Rainbow:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-136.html



AGM-137 TSSAM

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-137.html

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« Reply #75 on: August 16, 2015, 06:40:00 am »
Looking forward to information on Senior Prom since I worked on Northrop's "winning" competitor, AGM-137 TSSAM, that they then managed to mis-manage into termination.
Most interesting! I can't remember the code name for Northrop's AGM-137; Tacit something. -SP

Can't remember exactly, but I remember reading about it in a book (name of book and author now forgotten) many years ago that it was Tacit Rainbow.

This is Tacit Rainbow:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-136.html



AGM-137 TSSAM

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-137.html

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« Reply #76 on: August 16, 2015, 08:22:42 am »
I keep getting the Northrop AGM-136 Tacit Rainbow and Northrop AGM-137 TSSAM missiles mixed up. My bad! -SP 
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« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2015, 11:04:00 am »
I believe I remember it, but I'm not sure I'm cleared to repeat it yet.  I will say it was not in the Tacit series.

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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2015, 11:57:52 am »
I believe I remember it, but I'm not sure I'm cleared to repeat it yet.  I will say it was not in the Tacit series.
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« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2015, 12:17:10 pm »
SENIOR PARTY?

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« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2015, 11:11:19 am »
Even if some one gets it right, I couldn't say anything.  It's been 20 years since the program was cancelled and I'm still leery of saying too much.  Just like there's some aspects of commentary on the B-2's first flight that amused me greatly, but I'm still leery of talking about it.

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« Reply #83 on: August 18, 2015, 12:43:26 pm »
Steve,


This looks great!


As a request...


On the L-133 the main landing gear's mechanism looks exceptionally complex.  There's a main strut which rotates down and then the main wheels rotate out and down from that along with stabilizing / extension struts as well.  The little 3-views produced about the plane thus far really just hint at it and the Lockheed guys must have done more development on it as it is so complex.


If you could include anything further detailing that aspect of this design it'd be greatly appreciated!


Thanks!


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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2015, 01:30:12 pm »
SENIOR DISCOUNT 20% off on Fridays?

I was looking for a good one to crack up but you definitely beat me here!  ;D

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #87 on: August 22, 2015, 12:43:22 pm »
Another teaser from the upcoming Steve's book.


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« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2015, 03:31:36 am »
Exquisite, Giuseppe.

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« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2015, 05:46:57 am »
Exquisite, Giuseppe.


Thank you dear Foiling.

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« Reply #90 on: August 25, 2015, 12:59:55 pm »
Little, if nothing, has come forth from LMSWs re its and Rockwell's ATB proposal - Senior Peg. Giuseppe De Chiara has captured it (best that he could) in this dreamy three view. Enjoy! -SP
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« Reply #91 on: August 25, 2015, 01:34:23 pm »
Impressive looking beast.

Good work Giuseppe.

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« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2015, 12:02:24 am »
Impressive looking beast.

Good work Giuseppe.


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« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2015, 07:24:47 am »
Little, if nothing, has come forth from LMSWs re its and Rockwell's ATB proposal - Senior Peg. Giuseppe De Chiara has captured it (best that he could) in this dreamy three view. Enjoy! -SP

From the image the Senior Peg looks like a squashed F-117A but larger.

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« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2015, 07:36:17 am »
From the image the Senior Peg looks like a squashed F-117A but larger.


This is according to the scarce information available. At the end of 70's LM Skunk Works managed at least two derivative projects by the original Senior Trend (what became the actual F.117):


- Senior Peg (ATB proposal which lost the contract again the Northrop Senior Ice proposal of what lately became the actual B-2)
- Senior Prom (Stealth cruise missile, its development was abandoned in 1982 after several prototypes were built and tested).


Both of them exploited, with some modification, the original Senior Trend shape, that came from previous the Have Blue program.


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« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2015, 10:27:37 am »
Thanks for that archipeppe.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #96 on: August 26, 2015, 11:41:06 am »
Curious regarding the actual canopy vs cockpit - it almost looks like two canopies.

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« Reply #97 on: August 26, 2015, 11:49:26 am »
Curious regarding the actual canopy vs cockpit - it almost looks like two canopies.

Maybe the front one is for the nose gunner.  ;D
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« Reply #98 on: August 26, 2015, 12:54:41 pm »
My 2 cents: given the senior peg configuraton all those Window openings could be useful only for takeoff/landing operations

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2015, 01:01:17 am »
Curious regarding the actual canopy vs cockpit - it almost looks like two canopies.

I'm more inclined on thinking that the lower ones are for something akin to the F-117 IRADS, rather than another pair of canopies.

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« Reply #100 on: August 27, 2015, 04:05:38 am »
Another exquisite painting, Giuseppe.

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« Reply #101 on: August 27, 2015, 05:31:41 am »
Another exquisite painting, Giuseppe.


Thanks Foiling, both next Steve's books will be (literally) filled up with my artworks.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #102 on: August 28, 2015, 10:07:08 am »
Here's my latest Contents page. Your input is welcome. -SP

CONTENTS

Dedication
Acknowledgments
Forward
Introduction

01 – Beginnings: 1940 to 1944
Temporary Design Number L-133 and its Propulsive System
3//42 – proposed
Sidebar 01-2: Founding Fathers: Genesis of the Skunk Works®
6/24/43 – letter contract award
XP-80, XP-80A, YP-80A and the XP-80B: Birth of the Shooting Star
1/8/44
02 – Diversifications: 1945 to 1954
Saturn
6/17/46
“Racey”: The P-80R
6/19/47 – date of speed record
T-Bird: The T-33
3/22/48
Starfire: The F-94
4/16/49
Penetration Fighter: The XF-90 and XF-90A
6//49
X-7 (PTV-A-1) MX-883
4/26/51
SeaStar: The T2V
12/15/53
XF-104: Birth of the Starfighter
3/5/54
Vertical Riser: The XFV-1 Salmon
6/16/54
Hercules: The YC-130
8//54
USAF Neptune: The RB-69A
//54
03 – Unidentified Flying Objects: 1955 to 1964

YF-104A: Rise of the Starfighter
//56
Sidebar 03-1: Area 51
AQUATONE: The U-2
8/8/55
GUSTO: Archangel versus Fish/Kingfish
//56
Suntan
//56
JetStar: The C-140
9/4/57
MX-2226 ARDC WS-117L/SAMOS
2/28/59
Corona
6//59
MX-1136 Development of titanium aircraft and missile structures
//60
OXCART: The A-12
4/30/62
KEDLOCK: The YF-12A
8/7/63
TAGBOARD and Senior Bowl: The D-21, M-21 and the D-21B
//64
Senior Crown: The SR-71 Blackbird
12/22/64
04 – Ups and Downs: 1965 to 1974
Improved Manned Interceptor: The F-12B
//65 – first missile firing tests
U-2R
//67
CL-1200: The Lancer
// - date of F-5A selection
X-27 Lancer
//70 – date of YF-16 selection
Project Harvey
//74
Advanced Manned Strategic Aircraft
//74
Hypersonic Research Vehicle: The X-24C
//74 – program start
05 – Stealth if by Air, Stealth if by Sea: 1975 to 1984
Senior Prom: Stealth Cruise Missile
//77
Have Blue: The Experimental Survivable Testbed Program
12/1/77
Advanced Technology Bomber (ATB)
//80
Senior Trend: The F-117
6//81
TR-1
8//81
Sea Shadow: Stealth atop the Waves
//82
Advanced Tactical Aircraft (ATA)
//83
F-117N “Seahawk”
//84 – USN evaluations
06 – Fighters, Fighters, Fighters…: 1985 to 1994

STOVL Strike Fighter (SFF)
//87
Multi Role Fighter (MRF)
//90
Advanced Tactical Fighter: The YF-22
//90
Navy Advanced Tactical Fighter (NATF)
//90
Advanced-Attack (A-X)
//92
Attack/Fighter Experimental (A/F-X)
//92
Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter (CALF)
//93
Joint Advanced Strike Technology (JAST)
10//94
07 – Rising Stars: 1995 to 2004
DarkStar UAV: The RQ-3A
3/29/96
LightStar UAV: The P-140
5/28/96 – patent applied for
X-35A, X-35B and X-35C: The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Program
//00
VentureStar: The X-33A Space Plane
//01 – program cancelled
Sentinel UAV: The RQ-170
//04
08 – Technology Exploitation: 2005 to 2014
Polecat UAV: The P-175
//05
Hybrid Airship: The P-791
1/31/06
X-55A: The Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft Program
6/2/09
MQ-X: The Experimental Multirole Drone Program
9//09 – unveiled
Ares
//10
VARIOUS
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X-56A: The Multi-utility Aeroelastic Demonstrator Program
7/26/13
Sea Ghost: The Unmanned Carrier-launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) Program
8/14/13 – contract award
SR-72: The Unmanned Hypersonic Reconnaissance Strike Aircraft Program
10//13
09 – Future Days: 2015 to…
RQ-X/UQ-2
8//15
High Speed Strike Weapon (HSSW)
//15
Long Range Strike Bomber
//15 – contract award
Next Generation Air Dominance
//16
Conclusions
Glossary
Appendices
Appendix A: Timeline
Appendix B: Lockheed/Lockheed-California Temporary Design Numbers (associated with the Skunk Works®)
Appendix C: Lockheed Model Numbers (associated with the Skunk Works®) 
Appendix D: Known P-Numbers (associated with the Skunk Works®)
Bibliography and Sources
Index

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #103 on: August 28, 2015, 11:54:32 am »
Looking good so far, at this rate the book will replace Jay Miller's Skunk Works book on my bookshelf.  One question though, will it be Hardback or Softback upon first release?

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #104 on: August 28, 2015, 12:38:53 pm »
Nothing will replace Jay's masterpiece - I imagine he plans to update his book.
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #105 on: August 28, 2015, 12:57:45 pm »
Nothing will replace Jay's masterpiece - I imagine he plans to update his book.
My book is to be hardbound. -SP

I guess you are right about Jay Miller's book, I still refer to it now and again especially on the history side of the Skunk Works.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #106 on: August 28, 2015, 08:52:23 pm »
Forward by whom? Marillyn Hewson?

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« Reply #107 on: August 28, 2015, 10:11:31 pm »
Forward by whom? Marillyn Hewson?
Good guess. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2015, 06:07:54 pm »
New to me Polecat image. -SP
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« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2015, 07:40:22 pm »
One year at Farnborough Lockheed Martin were supposed to unveil a super new high flying long endurance UAV - but then we got to see Pole Cat instead.

Is there any truth in the rumour that Pole Cat is ten years plus older than we are told? A spin off from their ATB work?

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« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2015, 07:53:49 pm »
Not likely - It's first flight was 9/2004 - the exact date has never been disclosed. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #111 on: September 25, 2015, 10:50:01 am »
Teaser from forthcoming Skunk Works book. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2015, 03:38:51 pm »
Another tease from Giuseppe De Chiara. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2015, 12:12:36 am »

Is there any truth in the rumour that Pole Cat is ten years plus older than we are told? A spin off from their ATB work?


Zero.
Polecat demonstrated new, innovative manufacturing and rapid prototyping technologies, and was to explore a new high LD laminar flow wing design.


It was a 3d printed airplane. They didn't have 3d printers during the ATB competition :)

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2015, 01:43:42 am »
Hi Steve;

I looked at your table of contents and I have several questions.

  • Re: hypersonics, beyond X-24C / NHFRF, is there anything planned on Darpa's Falcon HTV-3X / BlackSwift hypersonic program? :-*
  • Based on your historical research will you also discuss Skunk Works statements and/or their preliminary internal proposal on Nasp? From the description I read, their Nasp was kinda close to the Falcon vehicle, with two airbreathing engine ducts, but noe one has even seen their blueprints and it is very unlikely their figured out something a la Khotari). :-*
  • Will you also dwelve into MHD, most notably recent MHD reentry research? :-*
  • Will you also discuss Lockheed's Skunk Work plasma research… since Allen was more than well versed into that? :-*
  • Oh, one more thing. ;) Will you discuss (open literature) counter stealth work based on quantum physics principles?  :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2015, 03:46:40 am »
Hi Steve.  Any thoughts about the cover photos?  How about the SR-75 on the front and perhaps four photos on the back consisting of the P-80, U-2, SR-71 and the F-117A?

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« Reply #116 on: October 11, 2015, 03:57:00 am »
Lockheed Suntan & De Chiara's colour 3-views - two of the very most thrilling attractions in the world of aircraft. If you hadn't had my attention before, you sure have now! I cannot wait.

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« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2015, 05:04:29 am »
My dear Steve,


I suggest that,you must divide this great work into two volumes.

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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2015, 05:06:07 am »
Lockheed Suntan & De Chiara's colour 3-views - two of the very most thrilling attractions in the world of aircraft. If you hadn't had my attention before, you sure have now! I cannot wait.


Thank you dear Foiling, I have to say that Steve is able to get out the best of my art.

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« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2015, 05:29:22 am »
Can't wait.

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Re: Forthcoming book: LOCKHEED MARTIN SKUNK WORKS: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #120 on: October 31, 2015, 10:16:52 am »
Our dear friend Giuseppe's at it again - check these beauties out. -SP
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« Reply #121 on: October 31, 2015, 11:34:20 am »
The YF22 sure was a smart looking bird. Crazy amazing drawings. Kudos!

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« Reply #122 on: November 01, 2015, 12:33:14 pm »
Excellent illustrative work yet again.

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Re: Forthcoming book: The Projects of Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #123 on: November 11, 2015, 12:52:21 pm »
Another teaser from the upcoming Steve's book...

Enjoy it!!

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« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2015, 10:18:49 am »
Also X-35 will be treated into the next Steve Pace's book.

Enjoy it!

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« Reply #125 on: December 01, 2015, 05:55:06 am »
Exquisite artwork, as always, Giuseppe. Thank you.

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« Reply #126 on: December 07, 2015, 12:23:30 pm »
Thanks to my friend flateric, I could correct my X-35B drawing since it was plagued by several errors due to not correct 3 views in my possess, so he provied me the right one and I could correct all the mistakes done.

Here there are X-35B and C, as they would appear in the next Steve's book about Skunk Works.

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Re: Forthcoming book: The Projects of Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #127 on: December 10, 2015, 08:04:49 am »
It's wonderful to have such a perfectionist as yourself onboard, Giuseppe! Thanks so much for your hard work and professionalism on this book project and the earlier X-Bomber/X-Fighter book project. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: The Projects of Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #128 on: December 28, 2015, 07:53:10 am »
Giuseppe De Chiara has now captured the first of five SDD F-35As (AA-1) in three view - not an easy task. -SP
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« Reply #129 on: December 28, 2015, 09:17:47 am »
Thanking Steve for his kindness I want to also post, only for comparison respect the AA-1 (2006), a current F-35A in particular the AL-1 the first airframe assembled in Italy at Cameri FACO that successfully flown, with Bill "Gigs" Gigliotti, last 7 of September.

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« Reply #130 on: December 28, 2015, 10:20:18 am »
Thanking Steve for his kindness I want to also post, only for comparison respect the AA-1 (2006), a current F-35A in particular the AL-1 the first airframe assembled in Italy at Cameri FACO that successfully flown, with Bill "Gigs" Gigliotti, last 7 of September.

The pictures keep getting better and better.  I cannot wait to get my hands on the finished book.

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Re: Forthcoming book: The Projects of Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #131 on: January 03, 2016, 06:11:21 pm »
Another teaser. -SP
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« Reply #132 on: January 03, 2016, 06:15:44 pm »
Another teaser. -SP


Now.... If we could get copies signed by the author....  that would be the bomb.

Anyone know if that's possible?  ;-)

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Re: Forthcoming book: The Projects of Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #133 on: January 03, 2016, 06:35:41 pm »
Giuseppe De Chiara has now captured the first of five SDD F-35As (AA-1) in three view - not an easy task. -SP
Does he have a depiction of them with gear down?  AA-1 has a different nose gear door design from subsequent aircraft (where lessons learned from AA-1 were applied).

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« Reply #134 on: January 03, 2016, 06:54:08 pm »
Giuseppe De Chiara has now captured the first of five SDD F-35As (AA-1) in three view - not an easy task. -SP
Does he have a depiction of them with gear down?  AA-1 has a different nose gear door design from subsequent aircraft (where lessons learned from AA-1 were applied).
I'm sorry but his AA-1 drawing is gear-up only. -SP
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« Reply #135 on: January 04, 2016, 02:09:08 am »
Giuseppe De Chiara has now captured the first of five SDD F-35As (AA-1) in three view - not an easy task. -SP
Does he have a depiction of them with gear down?  AA-1 has a different nose gear door design from subsequent aircraft (where lessons learned from AA-1 were applied).

I'm sorry but my drawing policy is to depict always the subject in "clean" aerodynamical configuration, this means that you don't find my drawings with gear down.

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Re: Forthcoming book: The Projects of Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #136 on: January 04, 2016, 03:20:34 am »
Beautiful artwork as always from De Chiara ;)

And that 3 views of Harvey, oh...it's really inspiring B)

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« Reply #137 on: January 04, 2016, 03:30:57 am »
Beautiful artwork as always from De Chiara ;)

And that 3 views of Harvey, oh...it's really inspiring B)

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Thanks CiTrus90.
Of course Harvey is inspiring...

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« Reply #138 on: January 04, 2016, 02:13:30 pm »
Another treat from Giuseppe. -SP
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« Reply #139 on: January 04, 2016, 03:35:23 pm »
Giuseppe De Chiara has now captured the first of five SDD F-35As (AA-1) in three view - not an easy task. -SP
Does he have a depiction of them with gear down?  AA-1 has a different nose gear door design from subsequent aircraft (where lessons learned from AA-1 were applied).

I'm sorry but my drawing policy is to depict always the subject in "clean" aerodynamical configuration, this means that you don't find my drawings with gear down.
Ah, okay.  If anyone is trying to model that particular aircraft, it has a single nose gear door instead of the split doors of all subsequent aircraft.

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« Reply #140 on: January 26, 2016, 11:14:19 am »
Another teaser...  Blackswift... SP
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« Reply #141 on: January 27, 2016, 12:08:13 am »
Another teaser....

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« Reply #142 on: February 06, 2016, 12:22:19 pm »
Latest offering from Giuseppe for the book. This is a beautiful rendering of the L-245 SeaStar prototype. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: Projects of the Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #143 on: February 09, 2016, 06:08:26 pm »
So what is the anticipated publication date at present?  The book still does not appear on Amazon.

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« Reply #144 on: February 09, 2016, 06:17:43 pm »
So what is the anticipated publication date at present?  The book still does not appear on Amazon.
I'm told mid-2017 so it's quite a ways off yet. Thanks for your interest. -SP
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« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2016, 10:19:43 am »
So what is the anticipated publication date at present?  The book still does not appear on Amazon.

Au contraire, I have pre-ordered it through the Big A.

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« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2016, 11:52:33 am »
Au contraire, I have pre-ordered it through the Big A.
In what country?  It does not appear on the U.S. site.

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« Reply #147 on: February 11, 2016, 06:50:52 am »
Huh . . .  well I'll be dipped.  I HAD an order, now I don't. Dafuq?

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Re: Forthcoming book: Projects of the Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #148 on: February 13, 2016, 12:07:48 pm »
Preliminary Contents. All comments and suggestions are welcome. -SP

Contents
Foreword
Introduction
Chapter 1 – The 1940s
Lightning: The XP-38 and YP-38
TDN L-133 and TDN L-1000
XP-49
Constellation: The C-69
Shooting Star: The F-80
Chain Lightning: The XP-58
Saturn: The Model 75
Constitution: The XR6V
Racey: The P-80R
T-Bird: The T-33
Starfire: The F-94
Penetration Fighter – The XF-90
Chapter 2: The 1950s
Flying Stovepipe: The X-7 and the XQ-5 Kingfisher
SeaStar: The T2V
Starfighter: The F-104
Vertical Riser: The XFV-1
Hercules: The YC-130
WS-110A
WS-125A
Suntan: TDN CL-400
RB-69
Aquatone: The U-2
JetStar: The C-140
Corona
Chapter 3: The 1960s
Oxcart: The A-12
Kedlock: The YF-12A
Tagboard: The D-21 and M-21
Senior Bowl: D-21B and B-52H
Senior Crown: The SR-71
SST: Supersonic Transport
F-X: Fighter-Experimental
Chapter 4: The 1970s
CL-1200/X-27 Lancer
Harvey
Have Blue XST
X-24C
Senior Prom
Senior Trend: The F-117
Chapter 5: The 1980s
ATB: The Advanced Technology Bomber
ATA: The Advanced Tactical Aircraft
ASTOVL: Advanced Short Takeoff Vertical Landing
Sea Shadow
SSF: The STOVL Strike Fighter
RIVET
Chapter 6: The 1990s
ATF: The Advanced Tactical Fighter
NATF: Naval Advanced Tactical Fighter
MRF: The Multi-Role Fighter
A-X and A/F-X: Advanced Attack and Advanced Fighter-Attack
CALF: Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter
JAST: Joint Advanced Strike Technology
DarkStar: The RQ-3A
LightStar: P-420
UCAV: Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle
Chapter 7: The 2000s
QSST: Quiet Supersonic Transport
X-35 JSF
RATTLRS: Revolutionary Approach to Time Critical Long Range Strike
Polecat
P-791
X-55A ACCA
ISIS: Integrated Sensor is Structure
RQ-170 Sentinel
Desert Hawk
NASA/Lockheed N-Plus Aircraft Program
Chapter 8: The 2010s
SACD: Speed Agile Concept Demonstrator
HTV: High Speed Technology
UCLASS: Unmanned Carrier-Launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike
X-56A MUTT
NGLRS: Next Generation Long Range Strike
LRB: Long Range Bomber
NGAD: Next Generation Air Dominance
VARIOUS: VTOL Advanced Reconnaissance Insertion Organic Unmanned System
TR-X: Tactical Reconnaissance-Experimental
HSSW: High Speed Strike Weapon
SR-72
HWB: Hybrid Wing Body
LBFD: Low Boom Flight Demonstrator
ARES: Aerial Reconfigurable Embedded System
Conclusions
Appendices
Appendix A: Timeline
Appendix B: Skunk Works P-numbers
Appendix C: L- and CL-numbers and Association
Appendix D: Lockheed Model Numbers
Appendix E: Chief Skunks
Glossary
Bibliography and Sources
Index
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« Reply #149 on: February 14, 2016, 04:22:24 am »
Preliminary Contents. All comments and suggestions are welcome. -SP

Contents
Foreword
Introduction
Chapter 1 – The 1940s
Lightning: The XP-38 and YP-38
TDN L-133 and TDN L-1000
XP-49
Constellation: The C-69
Shooting Star: The F-80
Chain Lightning: The XP-58
Saturn: The Model 75
Constitution: The XR6V
Racey: The P-80R
T-Bird: The T-33
Starfire: The F-94
Penetration Fighter – The XF-90
Chapter 2: The 1950s
Flying Stovepipe: The X-7 and the XQ-5 Kingfisher
SeaStar: The T2V
Starfighter: The F-104
Vertical Riser: The XFV-1
Hercules: The YC-130
WS-110A
WS-125A
Suntan: TDN CL-400
RB-69
Aquatone: The U-2
JetStar: The C-140
Corona
Chapter 3: The 1960s
Oxcart: The A-12
Kedlock: The YF-12A
Tagboard: The D-21 and M-21
Senior Bowl: D-21B and B-52H
Senior Crown: The SR-71
SST: Supersonic Transport
F-X: Fighter-Experimental
Chapter 4: The 1970s
CL-1200/X-27 Lancer
Harvey
Have Blue XST
X-24C
Senior Prom
Senior Trend: The F-117
Chapter 5: The 1980s
ATB: The Advanced Technology Bomber
ATA: The Advanced Tactical Aircraft
ASTOVL: Advanced Short Takeoff Vertical Landing
Sea Shadow
SSF: The STOVL Strike Fighter
RIVET
Chapter 6: The 1990s
ATF: The Advanced Tactical Fighter
NATF: Naval Advanced Tactical Fighter
MRF: The Multi-Role Fighter
A-X and A/F-X: Advanced Attack and Advanced Fighter-Attack
CALF: Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter
JAST: Joint Advanced Strike Technology
DarkStar: The RQ-3A
LightStar: P-420
UCAV: Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle
Chapter 7: The 2000s
QSST: Quiet Supersonic Transport
X-35 JSF
RATTLRS: Revolutionary Approach to Time Critical Long Range Strike
Polecat
P-791
X-55A ACCA
ISIS: Integrated Sensor is Structure
RQ-170 Sentinel
Desert Hawk
NASA/Lockheed N-Plus Aircraft Program
Chapter 8: The 2010s
SACD: Speed Agile Concept Demonstrator
HTV: High Speed Technology
UCLASS: Unmanned Carrier-Launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike
X-56A MUTT
NGLRS: Next Generation Long Range Strike
LRB: Long Range Bomber
NGAD: Next Generation Air Dominance
VARIOUS: VTOL Advanced Reconnaissance Insertion Organic Unmanned System
TR-X: Tactical Reconnaissance-Experimental
HSSW: High Speed Strike Weapon
SR-72
HWB: Hybrid Wing Body
LBFD: Low Boom Flight Demonstrator
ARES: Aerial Reconfigurable Embedded System
Conclusions
Appendices
Appendix A: Timeline
Appendix B: Skunk Works P-numbers
Appendix C: L- and CL-numbers and Association
Appendix D: Lockheed Model Numbers
Appendix E: Chief Skunks
Glossary
Bibliography and Sources
Index

Looking good so far Steve.  By the way, I did not know that the YF-12 was known as Kedlock?  That is a new designation for me despite having been interested in military aviation since the early 1980s.

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« Reply #150 on: February 14, 2016, 06:50:44 am »
Kedlock was the USAF code name for the AF-12-cum-YF-12. -SP
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« Reply #151 on: February 14, 2016, 08:22:11 am »
Kedlock was the USAF code name for the AF-12-cum-YF-12. -SP

Thanks Steve.  It is a pity that the YF-12 never entered service with the USAF.

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« Reply #152 on: April 07, 2016, 12:46:03 pm »
I was just informed that book will measure 9.25 x 10.875 inches (same size as X-Bombers/X-Fighters), have 256 pages, to be released in December. -SP
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« Reply #153 on: April 07, 2016, 02:18:43 pm »
Pre-order placed with Amazon.

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« Reply #154 on: April 07, 2016, 03:55:06 pm »
Thanks, Evan. You're the man! -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: Projects of the Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #156 on: April 09, 2016, 03:26:10 am »
Mr.Pace,when the book out, can you sell me an autographed copy.

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« Reply #157 on: April 09, 2016, 06:16:07 am »
The cover looks wonderful!

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« Reply #158 on: April 09, 2016, 06:35:49 am »
What is odd is that Amazon has the publishing date as December the 1st 2016, I thought the publishing date was supposed to be in 2017.

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« Reply #159 on: April 09, 2016, 08:12:39 am »
Mr.Pace,when the book out, can you sell me an autographed copy.
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« Reply #160 on: April 09, 2016, 08:14:44 am »
What is odd is that Amazon has the publishing date as December the 1st 2016, I thought the publishing date was supposed to be in 2017.
I suppose it's for Christmas gift buying reasons and Dec. 1 2016 is pretty close to the year 2017. Unfortunately, I have no control over what the publisher does. -SP
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« Reply #161 on: April 09, 2016, 11:38:44 am »
Absolutely cool cover!!

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« Reply #162 on: April 09, 2016, 12:04:35 pm »
Absolutely cool cover!!
...and it's loaded with your excellent illustrations, Giuseppe! -SP
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« Reply #163 on: April 10, 2016, 03:42:16 pm »
It's listed on Amazon.co.uk but will not permit you to order it.

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« Reply #164 on: April 10, 2016, 04:35:40 pm »
It's listed on Amazon.co.uk but will not permit you to order it.
That's very odd - I'll contact publisher tomorrow morning. -SP
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« Reply #165 on: April 11, 2016, 09:15:48 am »
It's listed on Amazon.co.uk but will not permit you to order it.
Publisher says they are aware of the problem - that they're on the case - should be resolved soon. -SP
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Re: Forthcoming book: Projects of the Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #166 on: April 12, 2016, 08:20:02 pm »
Out of curiosity, does the chapter on the 1950's cover any of the LRI TDN studies that bracket the TDN CL-400?  If I correctly remember (no guarantee, there) the small drawings in Jay Miller's book, both were T-tail designs with wing-mounted engines and no chines; almost like intermediate steps between a drastically scaled-up Starfighter and the A-12 family.

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« Reply #167 on: April 16, 2016, 02:11:41 am »
It's listed on Amazon.co.uk but will not permit you to order it.
Publisher says they are aware of the problem - that they're on the case - should be resolved soon. -SP

Thank you for that update. Now appears fixed.

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« Reply #168 on: May 04, 2016, 08:03:41 am »
Out of curiosity, does the chapter on the 1950's cover any of the LRI TDN studies that bracket the TDN CL-400?  If I correctly remember (no guarantee, there) the small drawings in Jay Miller's book, both were T-tail designs with wing-mounted engines and no chines; almost like intermediate steps between a drastically scaled-up Starfighter and the A-12 family.
Here's the final Contents:
Foreword
Introduction
Chapter 1: The 1940s: Forming the Wings to Come
Lightning: The XP-38 and YP-38
TDN L-133 and TDN L-1000
XP-49
Constellation: The C-69
Shooting Star: The F-80 and XP-80A
Chain Lightning: The XP-58
Saturn: The Model 75
Constitution: The XR6V
Racey: The P-80R
T-Bird: The T-33
Starfire: The F-94
Penetration Fighter: The XF-90
Chapter 2: The 1950s: Forthcoming Technologies
Flying Stovepipe: The X-7A and the XQ-5 Kingfisher
SeaStar: The T2V
Starfighter: The F-104
Vertical Riser: The XFV-1
Hercules: The YC-130
Suntan: TDN CL-400
USAF Neptune: The RB-69A
Aquatone: The U-2
U-2R: Rebirth of the U-2
TR-1A: The Ultimate U-2
JetStar
SAMOS: Satellite Missile Observation System
Corona Reconnaissance Satellite System
Chapter 3: The 1960s: Advancing the State of the Art
Oxcart: The A-12
Kedlock: The YF-12A
Tagboard: The D-21 and M-21
Senior Bowl: The D-21B and B-52H
Senior Crown: The SR-71
SST: Supersonic Transport
F-X: Fighter-Experimental
Chapter 4: The 1970s: Era of Wizardry
CL-1200/X-27 Lancer
F-X Program
Advanced Day Fighter/Lightweight Fighter Program
Project Harvey
Have Blue XST
X-24C: Hypersonic Research Airplane
Senior Prom: Stealth Cruise Missile
Senior Trend: The F-117A
Chapter 5: The 1980s: Bewildering Ventures
Senior Peg: The Advanced Technology Bomber
ATA: Advanced Tactical Aircraft
ASTOVL: Advanced Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing
Sea Shadow: Stealth upon the Waves
SSF: The STOVL Strike Fighter
RIVET
Chapter 6: The 1990s: Manned versus Unmanned
ATF: Advanced Tactical Fighter
NATF: Naval Advanced Tactical Fighter
MRF: Multi-Role Fighter
A-X and A/F-X: The Advanced Attack and Advanced/Fighter-Attack Programs
CALF: Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter
JAST: Joint Advanced Strike Technology
VentureStar: The X-33
DarkStar: The RQ-3
LightStar UAV: The P-420
UCAV: Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle
JASSM: Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile
GhostHawk: STOVL Strike Fighter (SFF)
Chapter 7: The 2000s: Out with the Old, in with the New
QSST: Quiet Supersonic Transport
JSF: Joint Strike Fighter
RATTLRS: Revolutionary Approach to Time Critical Long Range Strike
Polecat: The P-175 Unmanned Aerial System Demonstrator
Hybrid Air Vehicle: The P-791
ACCA: The X-55A Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft
ISIS: Integrated Sensor is Structure
RQ-170 Sentinel
Desert Hawk
NASA/Lockheed Martin N-Plus Aircraft Program
Chapter 8: The 2010s: Quantum Leaps
FALCON: Hypersonic Test Vehicle
SACD: Speed Agile Concept Demonstrator
UCLASS: Unmanned Carrier-Launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike
MUTT: The X-56A Multi-Utility Technology Testbed
NGAD: Next Generation Air Dominance
VARIOUS: VTOL Advanced Reconnaissance Insertion Organic Unmanned System
TR-X: Tactical Reconnaissance-Experimental
HSSW: High-Speed Strike Weapon
SR-72: Hypersonic Demonstrator Aircraft
HWB: Hybrid Wing Body
LBFD: Low Boom Flight Demonstrator
ARES: Aerial Reconfigurable Embedded System
LRSB: Long Range Strike Bomber
LRASM: The AGM-158C Long Range Anti-Ship Missile
Conclusions
Appendices
Appendix A: Timeline
Appendix B: Chief Skunks—Presidents, Vice Presidents and General Managers of the Skunk Works
Glossary
Bibliography
Acknowledgments
Index
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« Reply #169 on: May 04, 2016, 08:20:53 am »
No Minion UCAV?  (Was to be carried in pairs by F-22s.) No Saber Warrior UCAV or Cormorant UAV?
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« Reply #170 on: May 04, 2016, 10:06:05 am »
No Minion UCAV?  (Was to be carried in pairs by F-22s.) No Saber Warrior UCAV or Cormorant UAV?
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« Reply #171 on: May 04, 2016, 10:23:09 am »
No Minion UCAV?  (Was to be carried in pairs by F-22s.) No Saber Warrior UCAV or Cormorant UAV?
Nope - sorry I couldn't get clearance on those and many other programs. "It is what it is." -SP

Darn.  Well you tried.  Can't ask more than that.  Should still be a great read.  It's already on my list at Amazon.  :)
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« Reply #172 on: May 04, 2016, 11:13:50 am »
No Minion UCAV?  (Was to be carried in pairs by F-22s.) No Saber Warrior UCAV or Cormorant UAV?
Nope - sorry I couldn't get clearance on those and many other programs. "It is what it is." -SP

Darn.  Well you tried.  Can't ask more than that.  Should still be a great read.  It's already on my list at Amazon.  :)
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« Reply #173 on: May 04, 2016, 11:19:36 am »
It sounds like a great read.  Mine's already pre-ordered with Amazon.

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« Reply #174 on: May 04, 2016, 12:01:29 pm »
It sounds like a great read.  Mine's already pre-ordered with Amazon.
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« Reply #175 on: May 05, 2016, 08:28:31 am »
December can't come soon enough.  Looking forward to getting the book. B)

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« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2016, 11:21:46 pm »
After the sad loss of Mr Steve Pace, anyone knows if this book is going to reach the stores? It's still listed for pre-order in Amazon.

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« Reply #177 on: September 08, 2016, 04:25:06 am »
I do hope so,  sad and shocking news to hear.   :'(

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« Reply #178 on: September 08, 2016, 08:40:10 am »
Yes,

a wonderful author and helper was in May gone away.

Thank you Steve for all your publication works.

From his sister Patricia V. Whitman, who announced this on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=ntt_mus_ep_cd_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2429KQDYIBC18&cdThread=Tx3NOHMYA9U17MX

http://pipermorleymellingerfh.com/book-of-memories/2517584/Pace-Stephen/service-details.php

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« Reply #179 on: November 13, 2016, 11:45:06 am »
Amazon.com now has a "Look Inside" preview for this book.

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« Reply #180 on: November 13, 2016, 01:34:38 pm »
A preview of the this forthcoming book is also available at Google books.
Link:
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Here a screenshot of the content.  :)
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« Reply #181 on: November 14, 2016, 04:14:06 am »
Thanks for the link fightingirish,  this makes me want the book even more.  It is a just a shame that Steve is not here to see it.

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« Reply #182 on: November 16, 2016, 10:53:10 pm »
Thanks for the link fightingirish,  this makes me want the book even more.  It is a just a shame that Steve is not here to see it.

Thanks for the link Sirs.
Indeed the F-35 top view in the index page is a mine one.

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« Reply #183 on: November 17, 2016, 09:10:35 pm »
My copy came this week.  I have not had a chance to read much of it, but did flip from cover to cover.  The pictures and the 3-views are fantastic.  I was very impressed with the visual quality of the book.  Thank you Giuseppe for contributing.  RIP Mr. Pace.  You did well.

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« Reply #184 on: November 17, 2016, 10:01:05 pm »
My copy came this week.  I have not had a chance to read much of it, but did flip from cover to cover.  The pictures and the 3-views are fantastic.  I was very impressed with the visual quality of the book.  Thank you Giuseppe for contributing.  RIP Mr. Pace.  You did well.

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« Reply #185 on: November 18, 2016, 12:20:28 am »
Great Book !

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« Reply #186 on: November 18, 2016, 02:06:41 am »
A fitting tribute from all accounts.
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« Reply #187 on: November 28, 2016, 06:59:27 pm »
My copy arrived during my trip away this weekend, and on a quick first pass it looks fabulous.  A great final curtain for the late Mr. Pace. R.I.P., Steve.

(One minor error I found was a single reference to "C69" instead of "C-69".  Not a big deal, of course.)

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« Reply #188 on: November 28, 2016, 07:16:18 pm »
Got mine a few days ago.  Pretty nice for the most part.  Wish they'd have had something on the Minion UCAV though. 
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« Reply #189 on: December 05, 2016, 02:28:20 am »
:'(
[...] But I will still order this new book and also "The Projects of Skunk Works". May my little contribution support his family!
Godspeed, -SP
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I got my copy over the weekend. Looking forward to read it extensively over the Christmas holidays.  :)

Thumbs up also to Giuseppe and Jozef for their fabulous artwork contribution.  B)
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« Reply #190 on: December 05, 2016, 09:23:26 am »
:'(
[...] But I will still order this new book and also "The Projects of Skunk Works". May my little contribution support his family!
Godspeed, -SP
 :(
I got my copy over the weekend. Looking forward to read it extensively over the Christmas holidays.  :)

Thumbs up also to Giuseppe and Jozef for their fabulous artwork contribution.  B)

Many thanks
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« Reply #191 on: December 13, 2016, 01:41:17 pm »
I got one of these a few days ago inside of a gigantoid Amazon box filled with amusing books.  Gotta say it's less than impressive.  The artwork is excellent, the layout and everything is nice, I just expected a bit more on some of the more obscure projects.  Worthwhile if you're into Lockheed history.  But as a comparison, I found Chong's Northrop book to be far more interesting.

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« Reply #192 on: December 31, 2016, 10:13:25 pm »
I got one of these a few days ago inside of a gigantoid Amazon box filled with amusing books.  Gotta say it's less than impressive.  The artwork is excellent, the layout and everything is nice, I just expected a bit more on some of the more obscure projects.  Worthwhile if you're into Lockheed history.  But as a comparison, I found Chong's Northrop book to be far more interesting.

Concur with Sean's comment - for all the hype it was a bit lacking on the finer details  - i would say the Northrop book by Chong is really well done and more comprehensive with lots of interesting techy bits and drawings - if there's a choice to be made it as in my case - it was an easy decision

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« Reply #193 on: January 01, 2017, 12:41:29 am »
I think it's because Tony Chong is ex-Northrop, an insider, with a special interest in projects. Steve Pace was a good aviation author but had no special connections or access to Lockheed.
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« Reply #194 on: January 12, 2017, 06:56:19 am »
Got my own copy on Tuesday, still reading through the book.  Some quite interesting things that Steve managed to get hold off such as the Senior Prom missile pictures, that was a big missile.  B)

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« Reply #195 on: February 01, 2017, 09:04:49 pm »
Just got my copy. I'm impressed! Steve did a bangup job!
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Re: Forthcoming book: Projects of the Skunk Works: 75th Anniversary
« Reply #197 on: June 15, 2018, 02:55:08 am »
AW&ST ebook

http://aviationweek.com/defense/ebook-75-years-lockheed-martins-skunk-works

It's a set of reprints from AW&ST, nothing to do with Steve Pace's book as far as I can see, but definitely worth having for free!

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« Reply #198 on: June 15, 2018, 06:11:50 am »
AW&ST ebook

http://aviationweek.com/defense/ebook-75-years-lockheed-martins-skunk-works

It's a set of reprints from AW&ST, nothing to do with Steve Pace's book as far as I can see, but definitely worth having for free!
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« Reply #199 on: June 15, 2018, 01:22:24 pm »
These excerpts from the magazine through the years ought to make a nice companion to Steve's book, and the price is right!