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Offline hesham

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Piaggio Model Designations
« on: November 13, 2012, 09:10:01 am »
Hi,


I want a help from my dears and my friends in this designation;


P-1       single seat mid-wing touring monoplane aircraft
P-2       single seat low-wing fighter of 1923
P-3       four-engined night bomber biplane of 1923
P-4       (Pc.2) racer seaplane project
P-5       tandem two seat recce biplane,pwoered by single engine
P-6       catapult-launch recce floatplane of 1926
P-7       (Pc.7) single seat racer seaplane of 1928
P-8       parasol wing recce floatplane of 1928
P-9       single engined strut-braced high-wing cabin monoplane of 1929
P-10     three-seat recce biplane floatplane of 1930
P-11     licence built Blackburn Lincock as two-seat aerobatic trainer version
P-12     licence built Blackburn Segrave twin-engined four-seat light transport aircraft.
P-13     ------?
P-14     ------?
P-15     ------?
P-16     three-engined shoulder wing monoplane heavy bomber of 1933
P-17     ------?
P-18     floatplane recce aircraft project,to compete IMAM Ro.43
P-19     ------?
P-20     floatplane recce aircraft project,to compete IMAM Ro.43
P-21     ------?
P-22     ------?
P-23M  shoulder-wing four-engined commercial transport monoplane of 1935
P-23R   three engined low-wing cantilever record breaker transport/bomber monoplane
P-24     ------?
P-25     two seat recce biplane project of late 1920s,powered by Isotta Fraschini Asso 500 engine
P-26     ------?
P-27     ------?
P-28     ------?
P-29     ------?
P-30     ------?
P-31     ------?
P-32     twin-engined low-wing medium bomber monoplane of 1937
P-33     ------?
P-34  to  P-49   -------?
P-50     shoulder-wing four-engined heavy bomber monoplane of 1937
P-51  to  P-99   probably not used
P-100   ------?
P-101   four-engined heavy bomber,later became P-108B
P-102   ------?
P-103   ------?
P-104   ------?
P-105   ------?
P-106   ------?
P-107   ------?
P-108   four-engined strategic heavy bomber of 1938
P-109   twin-engined recce shipborne floatplane to 1938 competition
P-110   long range maritime strategic recce floaplane,intended to compete Fiat RS.14
P-111   twin-engined high-altitude research aircraft of 1938
P-112   was a variant of P-108 with Piaggio P.XXII engines
P-113   single-engined recce floatplane,also for 1938 competition
P-114   floatplane version of P-108,for long range bomber competition of 1938
P-115   ------?
P-116   ------?
P-117   patrol observation seaplane for large ships,competition of 1939
P-118   single seat fighter similar in configuration to USA Bell P-39
P-119   single seat fighter powered by one Piaggio P.XV RC.45 radial engine
P-120   recce aircraft project,to requirements of May 1938
P-121   ------?
P-122   twin-engined dive bomber to compete Breda Ba.201
P-123   new designation given to P-23R since 1942
P-124   floatplane project to requirements of July 1939 and May 1940
P-125   twin fuselage single seat fighter project
P-126   four-engined transport version of P-108,transatlantic airliner project
P-127   six inline engined transport project for transatlantic competition
P-128   ------?
P-129   single seat fighter developed from P-119 with Daimler Benz DB-605 engine
P-130   four-engined high-altitude pressurized long range bomber
P-131   ------?
P-132   single seat fighter developed from P-119 with Piaggio P.XV RC.60 engine
P-133   advanced version of P-108B with better engines and increased bombload,never
            completed
P-134   twin-engined light transport aircraft,powered by two 800 hp engines
P-135   twin-engined shoulder-wing light transport project,with two 1014 hp engines
P-136   twin-engined gull-wing amphibian flying boat
P-137   four-seat twin boom light transport aircraft,powered by one 215 hp Franklin engine,
            looks like French SECAN Courlis.
P-138   twin-engined project ,powered by two 1825 hp engines
P-139   probably was an iteration of P-138
P-140   four-engined medium transport aircraft project,derivative of P-108
P-141   four 1200 hp engines project
P-142   twin 450 hp engines project
P-143   unfinished tandem two seat primary trainer,powered by one 215 hp engine
P-144   single 1010 hp engine project
P-145   four-engined medium transport aircraft project
P-145/II  re-allocated to advanced trainer project,in the same class of T-33
P-146   single seat jet fighter project,resemble Lockheed P-80
P-147   four 1010 hp engines project
P-148   two seat primary or aerobatic trainer
P-149   four seat utility or liaison aircarft
P-150   two-seat low-wing trainer aircraft
P-151   ------?
P-152   ------?
P-153   single-engined low-wing light transport aircraft
P-154   ------?
P-155   twin-engined amphibian flying boat to compete Breguet Atlantic
P-156   derivative of P-155
P-157   transport aircraft project of 1956
P-158   twin-engined executive aircraft
P-159   circa 1955,may be a fighter
P-160   ------?
P-161   ------?
P-162   ------?
P-163   ------?
P-164   ------?
P-165   designed 1958. Tri-engine high-wing, land monoplane as SAR, surveillance and attack, mine   
            placement and transport project
P-166   twin-engined pusher-type utility amphibian aircraft
P-167   derivative of P-166
P-168   project designation  of P-166DL-3
RP-168  commercial quiet STOL project
P-169   I suspect in RP-196 design,it was four-engined high wing light transport
            aircraft,but I believe,it was RP-169 with misprint
P-170   ------?
P-171   ------?
P-172   ------?
P-173   ------?
P-174   ------?
P-175   ------?
P-176   ------?
P-177   ------?
P-178   ------?
P-179   ------?
P-180   twin-engined pusher turboprop powered,as a business aircraft
P-181   pre-project of a twin-jet executive aircraft
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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 01:24:36 pm »

P4 is the 1924 Pegna racing seaplane project Pc2

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 01:36:55 pm »

Pictures and data here:-

http://www.collezionarecartoline.it/home.php?base=altre_cartoline&id_comune=955&id_ritorno=955

P1 was a single-seat touring aircraft, not a fighter

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 02:03:30 pm »
Thank you Schneiderman,


and I will correct the list.

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 07:28:00 am »
Hi,

P-1XX   is a future twin-jet aircraft,may be based on P-180.

I found this aircraft for Piaggio as P-145;

http://www.historicaviation.co.uk/#/shop/4565679860/Piaggio-P-145-1959/2678393


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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 08:09:33 pm »
The Piaggio P.18 wasn't a bomber. Both the P.18 and P.20 were reconnaissance float aircraft projects to the 1933 Regia Marina requirement filled by the Ro.43.

I've seen the Piaggio P.33 linked to the Caproni Ca.616. So, presumably a Giovanni Pegna design?

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2012, 03:09:39 am »
Thank you my dear Apophenia,


I will re-set the list,and for P.33,you said it was in link with Caproni Ca.616,may
be you meant Ca.316.

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2012, 04:09:48 pm »
Hi Hesham. I'm not sure what to make of that P.33/Ca.616 reference. All of the aircraft/projects in the Caproni-Predappio Ca.600-block were light aerobatic aircraft and nove, AKAIK, reached those designations reached '616  :-\

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2012, 04:23:09 pm »
Thank you my dear Apophenia,


and may be it was aerobatic aircraft project.

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2012, 03:27:28 am »
 Hi friends,
firstly, my apolgises for the long silence on this blog: as you probably know, Italy is enduring an harsh crysis and I'm multiplying my efforts to rising some money...
About Piaggio designations, I have the sensation that P-34 to P-49, and P-51 to P-99 never were allocated.
About P.101 I found only rumours about an iteration of P.50 or an early configuration of four-engined bomber that became the P.108B (that, in fact was itself a re-engineering of the P.50 with metal airframe).
P.120 was a reconnaissance aircraft, answering a requirement of may 1938.
P.124 was the projet of a floatplane submitted for the requirements of July 1 1939 and May 1, 1940.
P.138: I know only that was a project to be powered by two 1.825 HP engines.
P.139: probably was an iteration of P.138.
P.141: I know only that was a project to be powered by four 1.200 HP engines.
P.142: I know only that was a project to be powered by two 450 HP engines.
P.144: I know only that was a project to be powered by single 1.010 HP engine.
P.145: perhaps was a designation applied twice; I have also indication of an advanced trainer in the same class of T-33.
P.147: I know only that was a project to be powered by four 1.010 HP engines.
P.156: only rumours abot a derivative of the P.155 family.
P.157: trasport aircraft designed in 1956 (no more info).
P.158: perhaps named Executive (twin engine, no more info)
P.159: circa 1955, perhaps fighter aircraft (no more info).
P.167: rumours about a derivative of the P.166 family.
P.168: project designation of P.166DL-3.
RP.168: project of a commercial "quiet STOL".
P.181: rumours about a pre-project of a twin jet entry level executive.
RP.196: four-engined light transport
P.1XX is a provisional designation for a twin jet entry level executive in development for some years.
Nico
 

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2012, 03:36:31 am »
Excellent Nico,many thanks,


I will re-set the list with your new projects.

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2012, 12:36:07 pm »
Dear friends,
Do you have more informations and pictures or drawings about the Piaggio P.3 Bomber?
If someone is interest, I have found an eBay seller who sells a nice picture of the aircraft.
Here it is the link
 

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2012, 06:37:50 pm »
P.165 Designed 1958. Tri-engine high-wing, land monoplane as SAR, surveillance and attack, mine placement and transport

PD.808 1962 joint Piaggo and Douglas aircraft, twin-jet executive monoplane with 7-10 seats. One built 1964.
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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2012, 03:48:55 am »
Thank you my dear Loren,


and I will re-set the List.

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Re: Piaggio Model Designations
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2014, 10:04:50 am »
 Hi boys,
during a short holiday pause, I found some notes about a Piaggio designation list. I pick the occasion for an update of the complete list of our Hesham
Eng. Pegna projects
P-1       single seat mid-wing touring monoplane aircraft
P-2       single seat low-wing fighter of 1he occasion t923
P-3       four-engined night bomber biplane of 1923
P-4       (Pc.2) racer seaplane project
P-5       tandem two seat recce biplane,pwoered by single engine
P-6       catapult-launch recce floatplane of 1926
P-7       (Pc.7) single seat racer seaplane of 1928
P-8       parasol wing recce floatplane of 1928
P-9       single engined strut-braced high-wing cabin monoplane of 1929
P-10     three-seat recce biplane floatplane of 1930
P-11     licence built Blackburn Lincock as two-seat aerobatic trainer version
P-12     licence built Blackburn Segrave twin-engined four-seat light transport aircraft.
P-13     ------?
P-14     ------?
P-15     ------?
P-16     three-engined shoulder wing monoplane heavy bomber of 1933
P-17     ------?
P-18     floatplane recce aircraft project,to compete IMAM Ro.43
P-19     ------?
P-20     floatplane recce aircraft project,to compete IMAM Ro.43
P-21     ------?
P-22     ------?
P-23M  shoulder-wing four-engined commercial transport monoplane of 1935
P-23R   three engined low-wing cantilever record breaker transport/bomber monoplane
P-24     ------?
P-25     two seat recce biplane project of late 1920s,powered by Isotta Fraschini Asso 500 engine
P-26     ------?
P-27     ------?
P-28     ------?
P-29     ------?
P-30     ------?
P-31     ------?
P-32     twin-engined low-wing medium bomber monoplane of 1937
P-33     possibly Caproni Project
P-34  to  P-49   -------?
P-50     shoulder-wing four-engined heavy bomber monoplane of 1937
the development was continued by Eng. Casiraghi.
P-51 to P-100 not assigned