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Offline Grey Havoc

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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2016, 02:31:13 pm »
We'll agree to disagree then.
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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2016, 03:08:25 pm »
We'll agree to disagree then.

They've just allocated $2bn if you read the statements, which follows on from the initial study started in 2014. This is programme start for prototype aircraft rather than a dying whimper.

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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2016, 02:41:53 am »





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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2016, 04:15:59 am »
Thanks for the context flateric.

I find it interesting though that all the publicity around FCAS is generated by the French side and BAE are either rubbish at PR or don't want to talk.

It's this aspect alone that makes me wonder whether we will see one prototype from Britain and one from France sharing engines and sensors but with the airframe remaining sovereign.

Time will tell.

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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2016, 04:50:22 am »
Well, BAe is putting some efforts on FCAS PR, but for limited circles indeed.
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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2016, 05:29:59 am »
Thanks Flateric :)

For comparison : Taranis, Neuron, model of FCAS (November 2014) and the US Navy X-47b :

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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2016, 07:07:14 am »
cranked kite planform is not something unknown for BAe
FOAS concepts mix, 2004
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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2016, 12:51:35 pm »
"Future" Dassault fighter, from CATIA software in 1994 :




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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2016, 01:46:03 pm »
In recent times the only designs that BAE have produced are one which looks like the X45A and Taranis.

I find the X47B lookalike from Dassault and X45A lookalike from BAE a bit fishy and more likely to be placeholders than representative of genuine designs.

But I could be wrong.
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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2016, 03:27:28 am »
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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2016, 06:13:00 am »
Oh good, it wouldn't be the first time ;D

When the time is right I look forward to further illumination then.

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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2016, 05:59:16 am »
More evidence that the French like their 2014 design enough to release it into the public domain:

http://www.asds-media.com/videos/fcas-studies-m1190

BAE have yet to release an image of their 2014 vintage X45A lookalike other than as the model/artwork used during the ceremony.

The French have used this type of planform before 2014, so perhaps that is why they are comfortable with it?
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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2016, 08:33:01 am »
Considering the classification of some of the work done / being done, I'd infer nothing [at this time] from that which is publicly available.

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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2016, 11:57:55 am »
Agreed. This plus the fact the new phase has yet to begin and by definition will differ significantly from anything studied in the past 10 years.


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Re: Future Combat Air System (FCAS)
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2016, 09:01:38 pm »
More evidence that the French like their 2014 design enough to release it into the public domain:
http://www.asds-media.com/videos/fcas-studies-m1190
Interesting.

Thanks for the sharing MrMalaya.