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Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« on: August 20, 2010, 07:35:11 am »

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 08:17:34 am »
modern ballistic recovery chutes on light planes have probably saved quite many lives.
I wonder how much the idea faced opposition during the years.

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 08:50:45 am »
Any plane other than the Aardvark have this kind of setup?


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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 08:57:46 am »
Any plane other than the Aardvark have this kind of setup?

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 09:10:30 am »
Thanks, I knew one did and couldn't put my finger on it..

Did Comanche too, or is that just "Goldeneye" colouring my memory?

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 05:24:46 am »
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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2010, 01:35:55 pm »
modern ballistic recovery chutes on light planes have probably saved quite many lives.
I wonder how much the idea faced opposition during the years.

Most of the opposition on production aircraft cam from two camps:  First the "He-man" camp which felt that if you flew right, you wouldn't need such a wussy thing.  Second, those who felt that the increase in safety wasn't worth the extra weight, cost and complexity, weight being a big thing on a light plane.  The jury may still be out on that last, as the Cirrus aircraft, the first (I think) production aircraft to use it do not have a better safety/survival recovery record than those non-equipped.  In fact, ironically, the accident rate is a bit worse. 

Part of the problem may be the same thing seen when certain safety devices (such as anti-lock brakes) got introduced to automobiles.  It looks like people subconsciously thought that since they had these magical brakes they could drive "closer to the edge".  In a similar manner, there's some thought that the chutes on light planes may also give a subconscious lowering of the guard, where people were continuing into situations where they would have backed off without the sense of security of the chute.  It's also thought that some people looked at it like a zero-zero ejection seat and waited too long to deploy it.  There's also some speculation that people were reluctant to use it because although it could save your life, the aircraft usually would suffer sufficient damage that it could not fly again.  This made people want to try and "save" the situation until it was too late. 

Hopefully, education and training will overcome these situations. 

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 01:42:02 pm »
Thanks, I knew one did and couldn't put my finger on it..

Did Comanche too, or is that just "Goldeneye" colouring my memory?

The helo in "Goldeneye" was the Eurocopter Tiger.  It shows the power of the James Bond films, because when it flew in the movie there were only two or three of them in existence, yet Eurocopter made one available.  Another example was in the movie Bond drove a BMW Z3 for a short bit.  At the time of filming, I believe it was the first production one in the world.

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 02:49:19 pm »
Still, the escape capsule shown in the movie "Goldeneye" is fictional.
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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 07:04:06 am »
There are some system like that in service to land the ENTIRE plane like the BRS, of course works only for light aircraft.

A real case of use over the pampas.


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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 02:45:03 am »
This idea was used in fiction in the classic* Lord of the Flies by William Golding. The boys are travelling in an aircraft that develops trouble and the passenger cabin is released and parachuted to a (supposed) place of safety.


*Classic, as in 'schoolkids must read this'. ;)

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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 07:48:06 am »
This idea was used in fiction in the classic* Lord of the Flies by William Golding. The boys are travelling in an aircraft that develops trouble and the passenger cabin is released and parachuted to a (supposed) place of safety.


*Classic, as in 'schoolkids must read this'. ;)
So that's why it's some times called SF...  ;)
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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
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Re: Huge chute to land cabin from disabled plane
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2014, 06:16:40 am »
Also from l'Aeronautique 1934.