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snne said:
This is the preliminary design that TEI and TR Motor were working on, at least the afterburner mixer part looks like that of a proper 5th gen fighter engine to my admittedly amateur eyes. @F119Doctor what do you think?

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The only thing that appears to be stealth in the augmentor area is the chevron divergent segment tips. The flame holders appear to be conventional radial design with no significant low observable features.

Hard to tell, but it appears to be a relatively low bypass design.
 
PringleiPrick said:
Might just use GTU-0 as a flying testbed for sensors, firing externally. Software seems to be one of the more problematic parts of the F-35 programme. The earlier this stuff gets tested in the air, the better.
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There's still a lack of the testbed aircraft, which should have been introduced earlier on in the programme to test avionics and firecontrol systems. I don't know how they managed to get away with it with the F-16 Ozgur programme to nationalise Block 30.
 
Combat-Master said:
...I don't know how they managed to get away with it with the F-16 Ozgur programme to nationalise Block 30.
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Unfortunately, they didn't. MURAD's development hit a serious obstacle, and they urgently need a testbed aircraft. It turns out you can develop the software up to only a certain point by flying the radar on an F-16 and making necessary adjustments on the ground (who could have guessed right!). Physical development of a radar ≠ software performance of the radar. Certain high-ranking individuals at SSB couldn't understand that, and their forced decisions cost us some precious years.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Kinda surprised that more HMDs aren't full color...
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Weight and HMI considerations. The pilot has to wear this thing on his head and process the information displayed during 9g turns. No use if it snaps his neck off or he is unable to discern colour-coded data because of his colour vision fading under g. MFDs on the instrument panel are a different beast, he's not going to be making break turns with his eyes inside the cockpit.
 
Trident said:
Weight and HMI considerations. The pilot has to wear this thing on his head and process the information displayed during 9g turns. No use if it snaps his neck off or he is unable to discern colour-coded data because of his colour vision fading under g. MFDs on the instrument panel are a different beast, he's not going to be making break turns with his eyes inside the cockpit.
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They also have to be able to eject with it on.
 
Trident said:
Weight and HMI considerations. The pilot has to wear this thing on his head and process the information displayed during 9g turns. No use if it snaps his neck off or he is unable to discern colour-coded data because of his colour vision fading under g. MFDs on the instrument panel are a different beast, he's not going to be making break turns with his eyes inside the cockpit.
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Okay, that makes sense, but I'm not sure how much heavier a color LCD display of equal resolution is than a monochrome one.
 
Well people didnt need colour HMDs until the arrival of more net-centric sensors and data flow to the pilot. You could decide fast enough with a monochrome green image but as sensors gather more information for pilot to see (missiles, ground targets, thermal imagery, wingmans etc) colour HMDs would be more comfortable as a single colour would make the pilot prone to misunderstandings if he doesnt double check from LAD.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Okay, that makes sense, but I'm not sure how much heavier a color LCD display of equal resolution is than a monochrome one.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they go with an OLED display, they've been working on graphene OLED displays for mil applications since 2015
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Radonislav said:
I think non-IR vision present on demo suggests us that IRIS-300 is not only an IR MWS+FSS but also contains DayTV? Maybe I am just too fixated on non-IR vision View attachment 723960
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IMO even if there is day TV, since these displays are translucent by nature, the contrast wouldn't be very good when "seeing through" the cockpit. I think the color HMD is more for improved symbology, like the Striker II.

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Addendum:
Excellent demo of Forces News of Striker II in action. You can see the tracking setup is very similar to TULGAR with an IR camera behind the reporter, IR markers dotted about the cranium, and a color camera in front.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU6tewk85-Y
 
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PringleiPrick said:
IMO even if there is day TV, since these displays are translucent by nature, the contrast wouldn't be very good when "seeing through" the cockpit. I think the color HMD is more for improved symbology, like the Striker II.

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Excellent demo of Forces News of Striker II in action. You can see the tracking setup is very similar to TULGAR with an IR camera behind the reporter, IR markers dotted about the cranium, and a color camera in front.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU6tewk85-Y
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could also be for better contrast on thermal vision of IRIS-300. Black-White provides better contrast compared to green's tones
 
Scott Kenny said:
Looking down at a wing walker or similar. Remember that the F16 pilot's feet are at head level for an adult male.
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To me, at first look, it seems like as if he's sitting backwards or smth. this is what I meant by that, but it's of topic anyway.
 
pilot looks like he is leaning backwards and to the leaning to the right
while looking over his shoulder, possibly to some one on the side or slightly behind him
 
snne said:
To me, at first look, it seems like as if he's sitting backwards or smth. this is what I meant by that, but it's of topic anyway.
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helmutkohl said:
pilot looks like he is leaning backwards and to the leaning to the right
while looking over his shoulder, possibly to some one on the side or slightly behind him
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Which is consistent with looking at someone walking next to the wingtip.
 
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