Need more info about two Gloster projects

[hesham]

Hi,


from Tony Butler's Air Enthusiast magazine;


http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Arts/Art3524.htm


I want a more info about those two projects.

 

[toura]

hi Hesham
From " flitzerart.com
But i have nothing more !

 

[toura]

and I've also this one, but I don't know where I foud it !
Perhaps interesting for you ?

 

[Apophenia]

Interesting. Thanks toura. So, the Gloster G.40 design evolution from Whittle's patent application to the built prototype went something like this ...

 

[Antonio]

I think there is a bit of confusion from the source because I can't see any article from Tony Buttler included on AE 2003-3 contents

Please see attached file

 

[borovik]

Two views E.28/39 from "Jet Pioneers, Gloster and the birth of the jet age" by T.Kershaw

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dears very very much.

 

[toura]

hi all
I have also the gloster 18/37 !
and another 28/39

 

[toura]

the second

 

[Spark]

Hi Folk,

Some great drawings, many years ago I heard that Whittle was keen on Gloster building the jet because he had seen the drawings for a prop-pusher proposal and thought that the engine could be substituted with minimum length of jetpipe.

Putnams Gloster book has some drawings of the Bomber proposal.

the second

 

[Flitzer]

I have a profile of the P109.
All info and references from Tony Butler's British Secret Projects - Fighters and Bombers 1935-1950.


Hope it helps.
P

 

[Flitzer]

I also have one of an earlier design too.
All references from the same source as the previous one.


P

 

[pathology_doc]

P109 looks very XP-87ish, while the earlier design reminds one of four-engined variants of the Arado Blitz.

Of course this proves nothing except that convergent evolution will occur given the same basic design principles and working material (1940s aerodynamics and brutally thirsty turbojets in the 1500-3000lb thrust class), but the resemblances are truly striking.

 

[Flitzer]

P109 looks very XP-87ish, while the earlier design reminds one of four-engined variants of the Arado Blitz.

Hi
I was thinking the same. The P109 does look XP-78ish and also a little like an enlarged Meteor, at least, to my eyes.
The earlier project also reminded me of the Arado 234C.


Peter

 

[Crimso]

I think there is a bit of confusion from the source because I can't see any article from Tony Buttler included on AE 2003-3 contents

AE 2003-3 means May/June 2003 on this site.

 

[hesham]

And from Flightglobal;

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1944/1944%20-%200507.html

 

[TsrJoe]

Spinning tunnel model | Science Museum Group Collection

Spinning tunnel model of Gloster "Whittle" aircraft.

collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk