Back in the day (early 00's) one of those cable shows (Wings, History Channel, TLC) had a docmentary on the F-22. In it they interviewed Paul Metz, who was the Chief Test Pilot on the F-22A. When asked how fast it was he said, "it's fast. I mean it's really fast. The top speed is classified but it'll do 1600 miles per hour."
Thanks! Saw in a pilot interview that it can supercruise on the deck.
Thanks! Saw in a pilot interview that it can supercruise on the deck.
Supersonic at 1500ft - must trap about 750mph in the quarter.
Part of the ATF program was advance crew protection systems. Northrop's was the Advanced Fighter Crew Protection System. It was a 5 or 6 in one suite that provided multiple functions. One of them was providing protection for the crew from rapid decompression. The requirement was provide protection from 70Kft to 55Kft and 55Kft for 30min. The Northrop suit was chamber tested up to 95kft. I believe Lockheed's solution was somewhat cut down from the original solution as it no longer has a full encompassing pressure helmet. This is yet another clue as to the incredible kinetic capabilities of the ATF designs.
If it has to go somewhere may as well be here.
A Raptor in Hill Country
TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. -- An F-22 Raptor previously assigned to the 325th Fighter Wing was loaded onto a C-5 Galaxy and taken from Tyndall Air Force Base, Florida, to the Hill Aerospace Museumwww.acc.af.mil
www.thedrive.com
See post 1766 up the page.F-22 Test Pilot Details The Raptor’s Incredible Speed
A chief test pilot on both the F-117 and the F-22, James “JB” Brown III, provides a fascinating inside look at these remarkable stealth jets.
If it has to go somewhere may as well be here.
A Raptor in Hill Country
TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. -- An F-22 Raptor previously assigned to the 325th Fighter Wing was loaded onto a C-5 Galaxy and taken from Tyndall Air Force Base, Florida, to the Hill Aerospace Museumwww.acc.af.mil
Hill Aerospace Museum receives a Raptor
Christmas came early for the Hill Aerospace Museum as a wrapped-up F-22 Raptor arrived at Hill Dec. 9 on a C-5 transport aircraft. The F-22 was previously assigned to the 325th Fighter Wing fromwww.wpafb.af.mil
Per Wright-Patterson, it’s the second F-22, 91-4002. This jet was an envelope expansion aircraft and after retiring from flight testing, it became a maintenance trainer at Tyndall since 2006.
This does bring up an interesting question; 4001 was used for survivability testing and BDRT and the fuselage is sitting in storage somewhere, 4002 and 4003 are on museum display, and since 4006 is the oldest flying jet, what happened to 4004 and 4005? I think one of them was used for climatic testing and I haven’t heard anything about them ever since, other than vague suggestions that they too became maintenance trainers.
If I remember correctly, 4001 - 4007 were purely EMD, 4008 & 4009 were Production Readiness Technology(?) Vehicles (PRTV) that participated in the original Initial Operational Test & Evaluation (IOT&E) at Edwards along with the initial production aircraft 4010 & 4011.Hill Aerospace Museum receives a Raptor
Christmas came early for the Hill Aerospace Museum as a wrapped-up F-22 Raptor arrived at Hill Dec. 9 on a C-5 transport aircraft. The F-22 was previously assigned to the 325th Fighter Wing fromwww.wpafb.af.mil
Per Wright-Patterson, it’s the second F-22, 91-4002. This jet was an envelope expansion aircraft and after retiring from flight testing, it became a maintenance trainer at Tyndall since 2006.
This does bring up an interesting question; 4001 was used for survivability testing and BDRT and the fuselage is sitting in storage somewhere, 4002 and 4003 are on museum display, and since 4006 is the oldest flying jet, what happened to 4004 and 4005? I think one of them was used for climatic testing and I haven’t heard anything about them ever since, other than vague suggestions that they too became maintenance trainers.
So, it´s the second EMD F-22A.
I think there are/were 8 of those, or is it 9 ?
Just to clarify, it's takeoff within 1,500 ft, and supersonic before the end of the runway, which at Edwards is about 15,000 ft. Still quite remarkable, especially as the aircraft is fully loaded with fuel.
It's impressive to watch, seen it more than once, cold weather helps. The bit about runway length is a bit mute when they accelerate in a vertical climb. Dozer wrote about it once, very nearly went supersonic in a vertical climb. It is an overpowered beast you feel deep in your chest when you watch it 2,000 ft off of the runway centerline
The max performance takeoff and climb is certainly eye watering. But what I find more impressive is the Mil power takeoff, which is standard for most F-22 operations, even on the hottest days they don’t need AB. When Nellis is launching to the north, away from Las Vegas, you see the F-22 accelerate to around 400 kts, then climb out at a 40 degree angle until they are out of sight in Mil power.
THIS. For Raptor to hold its own against F-35s without EOTS and all the bells and whistles speaks volumes of what it is capable of, and that is not as hopelessly outdated as some people argue. Not to mention that P&W was recently able extract more juice from the F119s by simply tweaking the engine control software. A fleet of F-22s equipped with new computers, AIM-260s, podded AIRST(or whatever payloads they decide to install), improved engines, LO EFTs, new coatings and more will still be a formidable foe to face until NGAD arrives.
I see, that may be so, but there seems to be some credit to it, as SMC Consulting might have some ties to the USAF, to a certain degree
smg-consulting.com
Alright. I'll take it as it is. Still, they may be closer to the truth than most, however veiled and classified it is.
SMG Consulting does market research, primarily in "eVTOL" and "Urban Air Mobility".
Lately they have been on a self-promotion kick with their NGAD "Infographic".SMG Consulting unveils AAM Reality Index, August 2022 Release
SMG Consulting unveiled today the AAM Reality Index August 2022 release, incorporating information gathered since June 2022.
I can find no contract awarded to SMG Consulting by the US government.
They are definitely not part of the contractor team working on the "chrome" aircraft program. That team includes NG.
We may never know, they probably revealed what they choose to reveal. While it may be true that SMC is also posting speculation, what's not to say that EVEN what we know is probably not the full truth of things.
Agreed. I'd rather that we can continue to speculate about possible stuff for future technologies, and then continue said discussions as they are eventually actualized, without trying to make it too wild or too unfounded (At least I try to, but if I did make it too wild, then I apologize). Either way, we know that there's just things that we don't know, for good reason.
