Lockheed C-130 Hercules Prototypes, Variants & Projects

redwitch said:
The swiss get their cars by trucks. It is possible that some special deliveries occured, but unlikely, and there are very few airport in switzerland that could accomodate big planes carrying loads of cars.
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Also by train, after trans-shipment in the harbours you mentionned.
 
of course, trains do the job for big batches of cars. there is a very special delivery I thought of after posting yesterday's word. When the US president travels, he uses air force one, but an other cargo 747 takes all the special vehicles for he and his security team: armoured Hummers, "normal" cars etc plus the president's state car, nicknamed "the Beast", "Cadillac One", "First Car", code named "Stagecoach") The current model of presidential state car is a unique Cadillac. Sure enough the swiss controlers at Zurich would be much impressed to land and unload these at their airport...
 
redwitch said:
of course, trains do the job for big batches of cars. there is a very special delivery I thought of after posting yesterday's word. When the US president travels, he uses air force one, but an other cargo 747 takes all the special vehicles for he and his security team: armoured Hummers, "normal" cars etc plus the president's state car, nicknamed "the Beast", "Cadillac One", "First Car", code named "Stagecoach") The current model of presidential state car is a unique Cadillac. Sure enough the swiss controlers at Zurich would be much impressed to land and unload these at their airport...
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Not a cargo 747 (there are none in US service) but one or more C-5 or C-17 transports. The motorcade is usually a couple of Beasts, some SUVs for the Secret Service Counter-Assault Team, an ambulance, and various other vehicles.
 
TomS said:
redwitch said:
of course, trains do the job for big batches of cars. there is a very special delivery I thought of after posting yesterday's word. When the US president travels, he uses air force one, but an other cargo 747 takes all the special vehicles for he and his security team: armoured Hummers, "normal" cars etc plus the president's state car, nicknamed "the Beast", "Cadillac One", "First Car", code named "Stagecoach") The current model of presidential state car is a unique Cadillac. Sure enough the swiss controlers at Zurich would be much impressed to land and unload these at their airport...
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Not a cargo 747 (there are none in US service) but one or more C-5 or C-17 transports. The motorcade is usually a couple of Beasts, some SUVs for the Secret Service Counter-Assault Team, an ambulance, and various other vehicles.
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TomS said:
redwitch said:
of course, trains do the job for big batches of cars. there is a very special delivery I thought of after posting yesterday's word. When the US president travels, he uses air force one, but an other cargo 747 takes all the special vehicles for he and his security team: armoured Hummers, "normal" cars etc plus the president's state car, nicknamed "the Beast", "Cadillac One", "First Car", code named "Stagecoach") The current model of presidential state car is a unique Cadillac. Sure enough the swiss controlers at Zurich would be much impressed to land and unload these at their airport...
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Not a cargo 747 (there are none in US service) but one or more C-5 or C-17 transports. The motorcade is usually a couple of Beasts, some SUVs for the Secret Service Counter-Assault Team, an ambulance, and various other vehicles.
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OK for a C5, quite roomy inside, but if they use a C17, they might be a little tight, with all this package!
 
The C-17 isn't that small (roughly 2/3 the cargo bay length of the C-5). The full motorcade and helicopter package will require multiple transport aircraft regardless of type. POTUS doesn't travel light...
 
My dears,

do you mean this one,I think it was not ?,and even in French language edition,and the text was
written by English ?,can you send the cover page my dear Antonio?.
 

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Antonio said:
fightingirish said:
Probably the picture is taken from an issue of the book "Future Fighters and Combat Aircraft"by Bill Gunston.
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Yes, it is from that book. Page 18 (in my French language edition)
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Oddly, that page is from page 18 of my copy of Bill Gunston's "Warplanes of the Future," not "Future Fighters."

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OBB is right. :)
Btw the German version of this book is called "Militärflugzeuge 2000".
Before you ask, I do not have this book at hand.
 
allysonca said:
How about this one....... from the collection.
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The silver-painted, tee-tail model is not a proposed C-130 variant. It is the LG-202X concept (you can almost read "202X" on the fin). Lockheed (teamed with North American Rockwell Corporation) proposed the LG-202X in March 1972 for the Advanced Medium STOL Transport competition that spawned the YC-14 and YC-15 prototypes. The LG-202X was a fantastic design that incorporated blown leading and trailing edge flaps with four vectored thrust turbofan engines featuring Pegasus-style nozzles.
 
Hank58 said:
allysonca said:
How about this one....... from the collection.
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The silver-painted, tee-tail model is not a proposed C-130 variant. It is the LG-202X concept (you can almost read "202X" on the fin). Lockheed (teamed with North American Rockwell Corporation) proposed the LG-202X in March 1972 for the Advanced Medium STOL Transport competition that spawned the YC-14 and YC-15 prototypes. The LG-202X was a fantastic design that incorporated blown leading and trailing edge flaps with four vectored thrust turbofan engines featuring Pegasus-style nozzles.
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I'm going to update this comment to say that the model is actually the LG-203X variant (not the LG-202X) of Lockheed's 1972 AMST proposal (the distinctive crew cabin and cockpit windscreen and paradrop windows of the C-130 forward fuselage are pretty good clues). See the drawings I added today to the forum: "advanced-medium-stol-transport-amst-and-its-predecessors" for the family. The LG-203X proposal for the AMST demonstrator prototype was to use significant portions of the C-130 mid and forward fuselage as a cost savings measure to meet the tight cost requirement of the AMST RFP.
 
hesham said:
Lockheed had old Project called C-130J,it was developed
from C-130E with increase aileron and rudder chords,wider u/c
track,improved braking system and additional armoured protection;
do you have a drawing to it ?,(of course I know there was a new Project
to lockheed in 1996 called C-130J ).
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If it was the same design which I meant it,that's great ?.
 
Triton said:
Great find, Overscan!

Seller's description:
Twenty-plus years ago the U.S. Government approached Lockheed Martin to see if their C-130 Hercules would be a good ELINT (ELectronic INTelligence - Spy) platform. Photo No. 10 illustrates the winning Boeing RC-135 Rivet Joint platform currently in use. Lockheed, in-turn, approached the Penwal company and asked them to produce a concept model as per their, and the government's, specifications. Penwal produced the solid resin auction model offered. Concept vehicles, and concept models are extremely hard - if not impossible - things to come by. Concept models of classified military aircraft are practically unheard-of. The model is fairly large with a 15" wingspan and a length of 14 ½". The model is solid and fairly heavy weighing 1 pound 8 ounces. There is some age cracking in the fuselage at the front and back wing root (see photo No. 8). The wood stand is in very good shape, still retaining its felt pads. This was obtained from the estate sale of a former Lockheed employee. We contacted Penwal who told us that this was the only one of these produced. This C-130 (never even assigned a designation by the U.S. government, i.e. RC-130) could easily be the signature item in even the most complete collections.
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The horror
 
Good Day All -

For something slightly different.... Floats tied ito the existing landing gear structure and were apparently removable. From the Matt Rodina Collection, Greater St. Louis Air and Space Museum.

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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For frig sake, another British military cost-cutting exercise/Government Integrated Review - really???
I've really got to the point of asking 'what the hell is Britain up to'? Does it really know what it wants it's military to do?
Seriously, when is Britain going to realise it's no longer an empire and can't be politically committing it's military all around the world as if it was a full fledgling empire of yester year.....

Regards
Pioneer
 
Sigh, the DailyFail at it again with their infotaiment.

This was always the plan, the C-130J has used up most of its fatigue life in the Middle East and all the short-fuselage Js have long gone. The 2010 SDSR moved forward its retirement to 2022. Then the 2015 SDSR changed this and decided 14 would be given new wing centre boxes to allow them to serve until 2030 (or even 2035) and the first of 14 was only completed last August by Marshalls.
I doubt it would save much as Marshalls is likely to get a big cancellation fee on the £110mil contract. If only the MoD could make its mind up then it might avoid wasting time and effort and money in the first place.
 
As Hood mentions upthread, I thought this was always the plan, just a matter of the when. Surely, actually a good sign, that the A400M is maturing nicely? Plus the Js must be absolutely knackered after the past two decades!

The idea of any turboprop being acoustically stealthy is...well.....
 
Aaaaahhh, gotchya. I'm aware the A400M has had historical issues but I'm not remotely au fait with any of the latest developments or any lack thereof. Hopefully, the Atlas will be ticking over nicely by the J's OSD.
 
On the last two pages of this company brochure the projects Lockheed C-130SS (Stretch STOL), L-100-50, L-400 Twin Hercules, the Air Cushion Landing System and Amphibian Hercules are advertised.
Ron Downey said:
Lockheed C-130 Hercules
A copy of the Lockheed company brochure on the C-130 Hercules aircraft. A large brochure with a lot of C-130 info. Dated March 1976. Credit: Box Art
Download here or here or here or here (2.1 Megs).
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Source: http://aviationarchives.blogspot.com/2021/03/lockheed-c-130-hercules.html
If this post has been posted before, please let me know, so I can delate it or move it to a more suitable topic.
 
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Mark Nankivil said:
Good Day All -

For something slightly different.... Floats tied ito the existing landing gear structure and were apparently removable. From the Matt Rodina Collection, Greater St. Louis Air and Space Museum.

Enjoy the Day! Mark
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Meanwhile in Socom today...
www.thedrive.com

Amphibious MC-130J Transport Is On Special Operations Command's Wishlist

There have been proposals for a waterborne C-130 Hercules in the past, but the U.S. special operations community might just make it a reality.
www.thedrive.com www.thedrive.com

"We want that."
 

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